Christian president: I could vote for a gay

[JosephBKuzara]

2Ti 3:1 KJV - This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2Ti 3:2 KJV - For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
2Ti 3:3 KJV - Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
2Ti 3:4 KJV - Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 KJV - Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

Again that passage does not speak against godly behavior but falsehoods who try to present themselves as godly for ill purposes.

Falsehoods will appear godly for there own selfish ends which is a false form.The passages you presented only speak of these such who pretend to be godly.

Godly behavior is not a negative action as these passages teach

1 Timothy 3:16
Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated by the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.

1 Timothy 4:7-8

2 Peter 3:11-12
Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of people ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness,waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be set on fire and dissolved, and the heavenly bodies will melt as they burn!

2 tim 3:12
Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted,


2 Peter 1:3-8
His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him his own glory and excellence, 4 by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so that through them you may become and virtue are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective oror unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Tim 6:6
Now there is great gain in godliness with contentment,

1 Tim 2:8-10
8 I desire then that in every place the men should pray, lifting holy hands without anger or quarreling; 9 likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, 10 but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works.

Yet you interpret the opposite? Based on two passages you are reading out of context, you present godliness as something evil yet Messiah Yeshua is the mystery of Godliness and we are to imitate Yeshua.

Stop trying to draw people away from Righteous living.

 

[Scott Downey]

Would you vote for what scripture says is an evil person? Specifically mentioned people who call themselves christians who are for one thing sexually immoral. Your vote of support promotes their lifestyle as ok and acceptable to God to the unbelieving world and other believers.

1 Corinthians 5:10-13 New King James Version (NKJV)
10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.

11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside?

13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”

 

[Wesley Briggman]

Again that passage does not speak against godly behavior but falsehoods who try to present themselves as godly for ill purposes.

Agreed, these passages do not speak against "godly behavior" but against
un-Godly behavior.

Godly behavior is not a negative action as these passages teach

Which verse/verses teach that Godly behavior is a negative action.

Stop trying to draw people away from Righteous living.

God forbid that I should try to draw people away from righteous living. If I am guilty as charged, may the Holy Spirit convict me and bring me to repentance.

Without a doubt, I have unwittingly given you the incorrect purpose of my posts.

Then again, the problem might by your's, not mine.

 

[righteousdude2]

I wouldn't vote for a gay President if there were no choice,,, I'm wondering what kind of Christians are coming on this board?... God is my morality and he makes up mine I don't change his, to fit mine... I will stay the course... Thank you!... Those who don't have any moral Godly backbone... Go toddle off to tra, la, la land... Brother Glen

I AGREE. It seems that the BB/F has some wishy washy Christians. There should be no way in hellthat a trus Child of God would for a gay "anything?!"

 

[InTheLight]

I AGREE. It seems that the BB/F has some wishy washy Christians. There should be no way in hellthat a trus Child of God would for a gay "anything?!"

No way in what?

 

[evenifigoalone]

Funny how you get up in arms over someone being gay, but having an adulterer in the white house? Perfectly fine [emoji19]

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[Wingman68]

Funny how you get up in arms over someone being gay, but having an adulterer in the white house? Perfectly fine [emoji19]

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Is he adultering while in the White House? Plenty before him have, most of them probably democrats, heh.

 

[Humpty Dumpty]

Is he adultering while in the White House? Plenty before him have, most of them probably democrats, heh.

The thing is he’s not standing up there preaching and pushing adultery on us like the some militant homosexual leftist would be

 

[evenifigoalone]

Is he adultering while in the White House? Plenty before him have, most of them probably democrats, heh.

Would you react the same if he had a past of sleeping with gay men, but isn't currently doing it? Or would your standards suddenly raise upon that knowledge? According to the Bible, all sexual immorality is very serious, and those who practice it, any of it, will not see the kingdom of heaven

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[JosephBKuzara]

Agreed, these passages do not speak against "godly behavior" but against
un-Godly behavior.

No the fault is not of my own,

Your quote from which I contested

"There numerous passages that instruct God's children to separate from godliness."

 

[Wingman68]

Would you react the same if he had a past of sleeping with gay men, but isn't currently doing it? Or would your standards suddenly raise upon that knowledge? According to the Bible, all sexual immorality is very serious, and those who practice it, any of it, will not see the kingdom of heaven

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Everyone has sins that would disqualify them from heaven, none, not one will see heaven without Grace. What matters is how we accept that we have done, acknowledge what we have done & how we repent & ask for forgiveness, then go & sin no more. If we plan to repeat that sin? Now you have a problem. We don’t know if others have been forgiven, but we do know how they are presenting themselves day by day. What do they defend? What do they stand for? What do they fight for? Would it please God? Every day I fall short, but every day I thank Him for still having blessed me that day despite my failures. I am weak, but He is strong.

 

[MartyF]

When did Trump say, "I am Christian." ?

When did Trump say, "Jesus is Lord of my life." ?

When did Trump say, "I believe that Jesus died on the Cross and rose again." ?

Why does anyone think Trump is Christian?

 

[Revmitchell]

When did Trump say, "I am Christian." ?

When did Trump say, "Jesus is Lord of my life." ?

When did Trump say, "I believe that Jesus died on the Cross and rose again." ?

Why does anyone think Trump is Christian?

In the Rose Garden on national tv on two occasions and every year at the Christmas tree lighting ceremony are just two examples.

 

[InTheLight]

When did Trump say, "I am Christian." ?

After a presidential debate he said the IRS is auditing him because he is "such a strong Christian."

He has said he is a strong Christian many times.

Why does anyone think Trump is Christian?

Because he says he is. Because he said his favorite book of the Bible is Two Corinthians.

 

[evenifigoalone]

Everyone has sins that would disqualify them from heaven, none, not one will see heaven without Grace. What matters is how we accept that we have done, acknowledge what we have done & how we repent & ask for forgiveness, then go & sin no more. If we plan to repeat that sin? Now you have a problem. We don’t know if others have been forgiven, but we do know how they are presenting themselves day by day. What do they defend? What do they stand for? What do they fight for? Would it please God? Every day I fall short, but every day I thank Him for still having blessed me that day despite my failures. I am weak, but He is strong.

I'm just saying, I guarantee that at least half of evangelicals, maybe not you specifically, would require that Trump publicity denounce his past, if it were a past of actively practicing homosexuality, before they would accept him. At the very least. Something they are not doing now with his past of adultery, that he has, to my knowledge, never said anything equivalent to "that was wrong of me". We tend to waive away straight lust as if it's no big deal, but make it gay? Then we have a big to do about it

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[evenifigoalone]

Because he says he is. Because he said his favorite book of the Bible is Two Corinthians.

Trump gets to be a Christian because he says so, but I don't?

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[InTheLight]

Trump gets to be a Christian because he says so, but I don't?

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I don't know whether Trump is a Christian or not. The question was: "Why does anyone think Trump is a Christian?" The answer was: "Because he says he is."

If you say you are a Christian I'm going to believe it, unless something really damaging about your testimony comes out to cast doubt on your statement.

 

[MartyF]

After a presidential debate he said the IRS is auditing him because he is "such a strong Christian."

He has said he is a strong Christian many times.

I missed this. Thanks. I really didn't think he said that.

Thank you for sharing the video.

 

[InTheLight]

I missed this. Thanks. I really didn't think he said that.

Thank you for sharing the video.

I remember watching that live and I almost fell out of my chair. It's not something you forget.

 

[evenifigoalone]

I don't know whether Trump is a Christian or not. The question was: "Why does anyone think Trump is a Christian?" The answer was: "Because he says he is."

If you say you are a Christian I'm going to believe it, unless something really damaging about your testimony comes out to cast doubt on your statement.

Fair

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