Christian Schools Sue State University

[Daisy]

Originally posted by jcrawford:
Yes, by getting into the state accreditation business, UC is just going on a witch hunt specifically after Christians who teach non-evolutionist biology in high schools, colleges and universties.

UC is a state university. Far from hunting Christians who teach "non-evolutionary biology", they simply don't accept "non-evolutionary biology" as real or sufficient science. They don't accept 3rd grade phys. ed. as a creditted science course either.

The results of this case will hopefully award extensive punitive damages to the plaintiffs.

I don't see how if all they have to do is prove proficiency by passing the GED test.

 

[El_Guero]

USC IS NOT A STATE SCHOOL

 

[El_Guero]

University policy and shall be without regard to race, religion, ethnicity

That is from the Office of the President of UC

 

[The Galatian]

USC IS NOT A STATE SCHOOL

It is a highly-regarded and academically excellent school. I did graduate work there.

Why would you expect one of the great universities to accept creationism as a serious theory?

University policy and shall be without regard to race, religion, ethnicity

Right. That means that creationists can't expect the university to endorse their religion.

 

[jcrawford]

Originally posted by UTEOTW:
"non-evolutionist biology"

Oxymoron.

Evolutionary biology.

Oxymoron.

 

[jcrawford]

Originally posted by Daisy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by jcrawford:
The results of this case will hopefully award extensive punitive damages to the plaintiffs.

I don't see how if all they have to do is prove proficiency by passing the GED test. </font>[/QUOTE]Since most state GED tests are comparitively easy to pass, especially for someone with a high school diploma, I would expect the plaintiffs to pass the GED test with straight A's should the court permit such a test to be conducted in the courtroom.

 

[jcrawford]

Originally posted by El_Guero:
USC IS NOT A STATE SCHOOL

I believe UC and USC are part of the state University of California system.

http://www.berkeley.edu/about/history/#brief

Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[El_Guero]

USC

University of Southern California ...

"The University of Southern California is one of the world's leading private research universities."

web page

Catholic in origin if my memory serves me correctly ...

 

[El_Guero]

But, it is NOT part of UC and using it as an example when discussing the discrimination of the UC campuses against believers was evasive.

 

[Petrel]

Oh, well, if it's a private university it can discriminate on whatever grounds it likes. Indeed, Bob Jones University at one time had a policy against interracial dating.

But wait, this is UC, not USC, and UC is a public university. In which case I'll keep my original position that as long as the class prepares students comparably to secular classes, the only reason for rejecting it is ideology.

 

[jcrawford]

Originally posted by El_Guero:
USC

University of Southern California ...

"The University of Southern California is one of the world's leading private research universities."

web page

Catholic in origin if my memory serves me correctly ...

Although the following website doesn't specifically say that UC is the California state university system, I believe it is because UC at Berkeley is one of its campuses.

http://universityofcalifornia.edu/

 

[jcrawford]

Originally posted by Petrel:
Oh, well, if it's a private university it can discriminate on whatever grounds it likes. Indeed, Bob Jones University at one time had a policy against interracial dating.

But wait, this is UC, not USC, and UC is a public university. In which case I'll keep my original position that as long as the class prepares students comparably to secular classes, the only reason for rejecting it is ideology.

Wow, we can't even figure out if UC is a state university system, a private college or a Catholic one.

 

[El_Guero]

JC

THIS IS NOT THAT COMPLICATED...

They have TWO public university systems!!!

UC - is university of california - PUBLIC
CSU - is california state university - PUBLIC
USC - is PRIVATE

 

[jcrawford]

Originally posted by El_Guero:
JC

THIS IS NOT THAT COMPLICATED...

They have TWO public university systems!!!

UC - is university of california - PUBLIC
CSU - is california state university - PUBLIC
USC - is PRIVATE

Thanks, El_Guero. The lawsuit was filed against UC. Is that a state university? I thought so.

 

[El_Guero]

Yes, UC is a STATE of California school.

That is the school that is discriminating against Christians.

Earlier someone used USC's online documentation to support discrimination at the UC schools - that is not correct logic.

 

[jcrawford]

Originally posted by El_Guero:
Yes, UC is a STATE of California school.

That is the school that is discriminating against Christians.

Earlier someone used USC's online documentation to support discrimination at the UC schools - that is not correct logic.

I see. Is USC not part of the state university system in California, then? What organization is it affiliated with?

 

[El_Guero]

I think USC was Catholic ... But, do not quote me on that.

 

[jcrawford]

Originally posted by El_Guero:
I think USC was Catholic ... But, do not quote me on that.

OK. At least we agree that UC is the State University System of California. I guess if Christians want to attend any of their schools around the state, they have to go through a central admissions office.

Gee, imagine the State University System of California discriminating against people just because they think that neo-Darwinist biological theories are racist and shouldn't be taught in public high schools, universities and colleges.

 

[Daisy]

Originally posted by El_Guero:
But, it is NOT part of UC and using it as an example when discussing the discrimination of the UC campuses against believers was evasive.

It was a mistake - I googled on univerity & california and that was one of the results.

Nice the way some people automatically assign the worst motives to others - so much for charity.

 

[Daisy]

Originally posted by jcrawford:
Gee, imagine the State University System of California discriminating against people just because they think that neo-Darwinist biological theories are racist and shouldn't be taught in public high schools, universities and colleges.

I doubt that came up on the admissions interview. Students are expected to successfully complete certain courses, whatever their personal opinions may be. Those students did not.