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Christian?

MB

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If not "Reformed Catholic" then, what is it you are trying to say,by stating you are reformed?From Augustinianism? From good to bad. From sinner to saved. explain what you are reformed from?
MB
 

Reformed

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If not "Reformed Catholic" then, what is it you are trying to say,by stating you are reformed?From Augustinianism? From good to bad. From sinner to saved. explain what you are reformed from?
MB

My screen name indicates that I am in agreement with many aspects (but not all) of Reformed theology. I am not what is called big "R" reformed. I do not agree with infant baptism or Presbyterian polity. If you deduce anything more than that then you can join quantum in the vivid imagination category.
 

quantumfaith

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No......there are other reasons. Do you take a stand on anything?
Every questionable belief......you embrace......you are so tolerant...that even error is okay....

Questionable???? Perhaps in your eyes and those like minded to you. I am proud (without arrogance) to be tolerant (as you say). And you know various stances that I have taken.....you just don't like them. (tough cookies)
 

JamesL

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I try not to, but sometimes my testosterone gets the better of my judgement in reacting.

That's ok. Icon-o-lastic has all the mysteries of God figured out through his web links. He's the only one who's truly on track, and everyone except him is deficient.

I wonder how long it will be before he builds a ranch and starts a cult.
 

Iconoclast

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Questionable???? Perhaps in your eyes and those like minded to you. I am proud (without arrogance) to be tolerant (as you say). And you know various stances that I have taken.....you just don't like them. (tough cookies)

arrogance comes in many forms my academic friend:thumbsup:
 

Iconoclast

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That's ok. Icon-o-lastic has all the mysteries of God figured out through his web links. He's the only one who's truly on track, and everyone except him is deficient.

I wonder how long it will be before he builds a ranch and starts a cult.

ALL the mysteries of God....hardly. Your error....yes....Have got that figured out. My views are in line with the Historic confessions of the church, not novelties and schismatic persons questioning the scriptures themselves, questioning justification by faith, and embracing antinomian philosophy.:thumbsup:
 

Iconoclast

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quantumfaith

Questionable???? Perhaps in your eyes and those like minded to you.
over time yes there are many questionable teachings that excite you....
Federal Vision, Npp, theistic evolution,



I am proud (without arrogance) to be tolerant (as you say). And you know various stances that I have taken.....you just don't like them. (tough cookies)[

great....:wavey: glad you are happy sitting in a church where the pastor has an adulterous sodomite and his "friend" looking to serve as the live in open sin, while the wife gets rebuked....as long as they sing some happy happy choruses.....you are correct....I do not like them just as you do not like the teachings and writers that I link to.:wavey:
 
Too many people want to know other's labels so that it gives them a target to shoot their arrows at. :laugh:

I hide behind nothing, and tell them I'm a CHRISTian....

I'm proud to be a christian,
I'm proud to wear His name.
Jesus Christ is my Saviour,
Of Him I'm not ashamed.
On a hill called Golgotha,
They nailed Him to a tree.
It was there that my Saviour,
Was not ashamed of me.
 

Jerome

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"And since you would know by what name I would be distinguished from others; I tell you, I would be, and hope I am, A CHRISTIAN; and choose, if God should count me worthy, to be called a Christian, a Believer, or other such name which is approved by the Holy Ghost (Acts 11:26). And as for those factious titles of Anabaptists, Independents, Presbyterians, or the like, I conclude, that they came neither from Jerusalem, nor Antioch, but rather from hell and Babylon;" — John Bunyan, Peaceable Principles and True
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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"And since you would know by what name I would be distinguished from others; I tell you, I would be, and hope I am, A CHRISTIAN; and choose, if God should count me worthy, to be called a Christian, a Believer, or other such name which is approved by the Holy Ghost (Acts 11:26). And as for those factious titles of Anabaptists, Independents, Presbyterians, or the like, I conclude, that they came neither from Jerusalem, nor Antioch, but rather from hell and Babylon;" — John Bunyan, Peaceable Principles and True

Good post, good quote.....thank you!:thumbsup:
 

quantumfaith

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Too many people want to know other's labels so that it gives them a target to shoot their arrows at. :laugh:

I hide behind nothing, and tell them I'm a CHRISTian....

I'm proud to be a christian,
I'm proud to wear His name.
Jesus Christ is my Saviour,
Of Him I'm not ashamed.
On a hill called Golgotha,
They nailed Him to a tree.
It was there that my Saviour,
Was not ashamed of me.

:applause::applause::applause:
 

MB

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My screen name indicates that I am in agreement with many aspects (but not all) of Reformed theology. I am not what is called big "R" reformed. I do not agree with infant baptism or Presbyterian polity. If you deduce anything more than that then you can join quantum in the vivid imagination category.

My problem maybe a lack of imagination. You see Rippon stated that he was not reformed Catholic. He claims to be reformed. However John Calvin was a reformer of the Catholic faith. He didn't invent his faith. He learned his faith by being a Catholic first. That is the doctrines put forth by Augustine.

This thread is about labels and the use of them to note a persons beliefs. Simply being just a reformer is not complete in it's description of what a reformer would believe. Just as being a Christian doesn't completely describe a Christian's belief. It seems you and others are unhappy with the complaint of your descriptions of the beliefs of others yet your self claim a label that doesn't fit you completely either.

I've known Quantum on this board for a long time and truthfully he is one of the most well grounded people on this board who believes in the doctrines of Grace. A brother should be built up, not run down.

MB
 

Reformed

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It seems you and others are unhappy with the complaint of your descriptions of the beliefs of others yet your self claim a label that doesn't fit you completely either.

I simply told you what my screen name indicates. Anything more than that is your imagination at work.

MB said:
I've known Quantum on this board for a long time and truthfully he is one of the most well grounded people on this board who believes in the doctrines of Grace. A brother should be built up, not run down.

Did you read the exchange between the both of us?

Reformed said:
And sometimes it is just a way of defining what someone believes. Nothing more than that. A person can have inflated bravado with out with a label or title.


quantumfaith said:
So, am I deficient simply because I do not acknowledge the same labels and theological proclivities as you?

I never called or insinuated he was deficient. All I said is that labels are just a way to define what a person believes. For some unknown reason he took exception to that.
 

Rippon

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However John Calvin was a reformer of the Catholic faith.
No, he was not. He was a former Roman Catholic who was converted by Jesus Christ.
He didn't invent his faith.
Of course not. He was given faith by the Lord.
He learned his faith by being a Catholic first.
No, he grew to understand the Christian faith by assiduously studying the Word of God.
That is the doctrines put forth by Augustine.
That is not how he came to faith.
 

JonC

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Some prefer “Christian” not because they are uncertain of their beliefs, but because they are not inclined to form an identity on their own understanding. I don’t mind labels. If I ever stand at the doors of a church and the sign reads “Snake handlers”….or anything with “snakes,” then I would appreciate that label.

That said, both of these:

Another helpful post. Those who argue most against labels for the most part are not confident at all in their beliefs. In fact they are afraid if someone actually questions them they cannot respond biblically...so they hide by complaining about the label so as to cover their defective ideas.

labels that glorify men such a Calvinism etc.

are arrogant posts. “Calvinism” as a label does not “glorify man” (as I’m sure Rev knows, he seems to be an articulate and insightful pastor). I don’t even know where to start with Iconoclast’s remarks…other than to say I hope it was a knee-jerk reaction rather than a thought out post (he does not typically, in my experience, offer such stereotypical nonsense).
 

Yeshua1

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I "label" myself as being a Christian, who attends/fellowships in a Baptist church, and who holds to the Doctrines of grace as regarding salvation, but Dispy in all other things...
 

JonC

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The thing about labels is that they are not too hard to tear off. It is different with identity. :smilewinkgrin:
 

Yeshua1

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John Calvin did NOT get his views of theology from what he was taught by Rome, but from the very word of God...
 
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