Do we advocate this Bob? Do we teach it? Or do you sensationalize things that we never said? What you have said--stretching the truth, is nothing more than a lie--bearing false witness--the equivalent of "raping a six year old girl and shooting someone with a 38 between the eyes." It is the same Bob. Both are a transgression of the law. What is wrong here.
1. You have borne false witness.
(False)
2. You have suggested immorality.
(False)
3. You have suggested murder.
(False)
Of the above three commandments, only one was actually broken, and right on this board; that is the first one. The offender was you. Over and over you bear false witness against your brother, a sin just as grievous as adultery and murder.
(False)
I do not bear false witness and here is proof. I can give you proof of the others also. Here is you advocating that a person can go to heaven and die in the act of adultery.
DHK:
The tense in that verse is present continuous. (False) It refers to a person persisting in a sinful lifestyle. A person who commits adultery may go to heaven. He may even go to heaven while he is in the act of committing adultery. His sins are covered by the blood. Every one sins. The tense is present continuous is ridicilous.
If it was any other moderator Bob, such fits of anger could get you suspended. Be careful what you say to others.
So, now we begin the threats. You call me every name in the book, question my salvation and say you do not, call me a liar over and over, say I break all of the commandments, but yet you threaten me, when I tell you that your doctrine is false. You accuse me of being Catholic, which you believe are all lost, so you are in doing so, saying I am lost also.
A false accusation. We don't sin all we want. We live as holy a life as possible. Please get that through your head, stop the lying and misrepresentation.
(False) Can't you see that over and over you break the Ten Commandments in this way,
(False) and breaking one of them (lying) is just as bad as breaking them all--including adultery (James 2:10).
Here you once again accuse me of breaking all of the commandments, lying, misrepresentation. When it was you who said a person in the act of adultery and die stills goes to heaven. One time you even said "sing with the angels".
This is true. And we will give account to God of how we have influenced others, of how we have taught others, of what doctrine we have taught others.
And, by example, you do sin, and repeatedly so, as demonstrated on this board.
(False)
Again, you accuse me of sinning, you do this over and over and you are a moderator.
Can you document that? Can you document where we have taught people to go and sin? I want to see the documentation Bob.
You asking for documentation, knowing that you have said it for the last year at least, is a joke!!
I do not bear false witness and here is proof. I can give you proof of the others also. Here is you advocating that a person can go to heaven and die in the act of adultery.
DHK:
The tense in that verse is present continuous. (False) It refers to a person persisting in a sinful lifestyle. A person who commits adultery may go to heaven. He may even go to heaven while he is in the act of committing adultery. His sins are covered by the blood. Every one sins. The tense is present continuous is ridicilous.
BBob
So you believe you can be on top of your neighbors wife and die in the act and still go to heaven?
Steaver:
Yes, I do believe all sins no matter how many are covered by the blood of Christ for the believer.
No, I do not teach others to sin all they want and they can still go to heaven. I teach them to repent of their sins for the love of Jesus Christ. The Spirit will convict and the Father will chasen.
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steaver
ajg1959
I am not ashamed to answer it.
There is not a sin in the world that is stronger than the Grace of God. It is not the individual sins that a person commits that doom him to hell, it is the nature of sin within us that does. The ONLY sin that will send you to hell is the sin of unbelief.
Once a person has trusted in the Grace of God through Christ, he is no longer subject to the law, and all is forgiven. This does not mean he can do as he wishes and sin at will, but it does mean his sins are covered by the sacrificial blood of Jesus.
IF a person can lose his salvation by sinning then the Gospel of Grace is a lie. If I had the power to be sinless then I would not need Grace.
So my answer is a definate NO.....a person cannot do anything to lose his salvation, even commit adultery, whether he is dyng or not.
You sir, are the one with honesty issues if you expect us to believe that you live sinlessly.
AJ
How is that for documentation.
If that weren't true Bob, you would die and go to Hell. You also have sinned, and you have even admitted it at times.
Every sin is grievous in God's sight without exception What gives you the right to say that some sins are greater in God's sight than others? God is holy. Nothing unholy can enter into his presence--nothing. All sin, even the smallest sin is unholy. That makes all sin in God's sight equal.
What gives you the right to say that some sins are greater in God's sight than others?
Scripture:
Jhn 19:11Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power [at all] against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.
To teach that sin is wrong and unholy is not in error, Bob.
You should try it.
To teach that believers will sin, and God will forgive them, is not in error Bob.
Agree, just not sin unto death for you put God to an open shame.
It's a good verse Bob. Two questions.
1. Do you know what it means?
2. Do you obey it?
She still called Samuel up