Christians in Hollywood

[Salty]

You are making judgment based upon internet websites. Think about that.

Well, since it came from that fact based source The Onion

 

[Protestant]

Do you realize that you are spending more time looking on the web for people to judge as bad Christians than you are spending on growing in your own faith

I am quite impressed with your in-depth knowledge of my Christianity, as well as how I spend my short time on Earth serving the Lord. You obviously have a God-given anointing which allows you to judge the hearts, minds and intentions of those who do not agree with your (snip) version of Christianity. How very religious of you!

 

[Protestant]

Observing.
Why do we think we can look at high profile (in the eyes of the world) people, whom we have no personal relationship with, and then declare their spiritual condition with God?

The same way we can look at the Pope of Rome and determine he is a fraudulent deceiver who is of his father the Devil.

 

[Protestant]

In my early years, God lead me away from the stage. I am thankful.

when Hollywood producers came to Bob Jones Jr. in attempting to entice him to leave the responsibilities of the school and come with them, he said he would give them the answer in chapel. The next chapel, he demonstrated his tremendous talent by quoting “When I .survey the Wondrous Cross.”

The believer will show increasing evidence as they mature in Christ.

However, I place this thought into the thread.

Where is the discipleship of these who claim to be believers?

Where is that quiet place out of the glitter in which these may bring their life for accountability?

Many years ago, I had the privilege of working along side a former Dallas cowboy cheer leader, a last season lead on the ChIP series, and a solid believer. She recalled the scenes, parties, immortality, lack of accountability and the demonic oppression evidenced.

If the churches are looking for a mission field, there is such darkness in your own neighborhood.

As God gives occasion, witness, and as God bring forth the fruit born of Him, disciple that one.

I know of no successful believers that were not discipled, and with a disciple is discipline.

Why would one bother to witness if they haven’t time to raise the children God gives?

Perhaps that is the reason so few are witnesses! They don’t want the responsibility of discipleship of a new born believer!

I agree wholeheartedly with your statement: "The believer will show increasing evidence as they mature in Christ."

Christians are to judge the validity of their profession by testing their fruit. It takes time for fruit to develop. So hasty judgments are ill advised. However, years later if fruit is still rotten then judgment must be passed based on biblical principles.

Jesus is quite clear. The world loves its own. The world hates those who are not of the world...especially if they dare expose the sin and hypocrisy of those who love the world. Hollywood epitomizes the love of the world. Jesus' disciples are not of the world, as they once were.

 

[Protestant]

Hmmm - I wonder if this is judging???

The typical attitude of the unregenerate is "Judge not lest ye be judged."

 

[Salty]

By their fruits you shall know them

I attended a preformance by Kirk Cameron ( I won tickets from the local Christian Radio Station [but not the station I work at!] At one point, Kirk mention he would never kiss another woman (on the lips) even if acting. AT that point, I stood up and started applauding. I thought everyone would do likewise - well a few did, but not what I had expected!

It should be noted that while filming "Fireproof" Kirk never once kissed his (movie) wife, execpt in the very last scene. Well, to do that, the production company (the church) flew in the wife of Kirk and she - from a long shot -engaged in a very long passionate kiss.

Prosteant - I know what you said about Kirk in the past - but this example, I was very pleased!

 

[Protestant]

How do you judge yourself? Spend a whole lot of time writing that essay and leave God to work on disciplining his children. He does a much better job of it than you or I can do.

This may seem a new revelation to you, but God uses means to achieve His ends. That would include using Christians to exhort, rebuke, edify, educate, warn, encourage and approve the lifestyle, morality, teachings and beliefs of other professing Christians. There are many members in Christ's Body, each with a valuable service to render to Christ and His Body. You, Austin, do quite well in defending Calvinism. Defending one's position requires exposing the errors of the adversary. This debate tactic is not only educational, it is a rebuke; a form of discipline. You could stay silent and let God teach via His Spirit. Yet you do not. Is this because you cannot discern your own egotistical hypocrisy due to the log in your own righteous eye?

 

[Protestant]

By their fruits you shall know them

I attended a preformance by Kirk Cameron ( I won tickets from the local Christian Radio Station [but not the station I work at!] At one point, Kirk mention he would never kiss another woman (on the lips) even if acting. AT that point, I stood up and started applauding. I thought everyone would do likewise - well a few did, but not what I had expected!

It should be noted that while filming "Fireproof" Kirk never once kissed his (movie) wife, execpt in the very last scene. Well, to do that, the production company (the church) flew in the wife of Kirk and she - from a long shot -engaged in a very long passionate kiss.

Prosteant - I know what you said about Kirk in the past - but this example, I was very pleased!

Kirk, like Billy Graham, makes it a point to be as morally perfect, pure and innocent as the driven snow. I agree that Hollywood films explicitly depicting lovemaking is nothing less than glamorizing sordid highly paid prostitution. He also champions a godly marriage. For that he should be applauded. However, I would question his naivete when it comes to Santa Claus and Roman Catholicism (not to mention 'Secret Rapture'). Billy Graham had the same blind spot.....allowing millions to remain in damning subjection to false Christianity.

 

[Salty]

Secret raptrue ?? how can it be secret - when itis know by so many people!

 

[Protestant]

Secret raptrue ?? how can it be secret - when itis know by so many people!

LOL I will reserve comment if and when I start a new thread on the subject

 

[Reformed1689]

LOL I will reserve comment if and when I start a new thread on the subject

I don't know of anyone who believes in a secret rapture.

 

[Salty]

I don't know of anyone who believes in a secret rapture.

Reformed - its secret because we did not want you to know about it

 

[kyredneck]

Christians in Hollywood

Who runs Hollywood? C'mon - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)

 

[agedman]

Kirk, like Billy Graham, makes it a point to be as morally perfect, pure and innocent as the driven snow...However, I would question his naivete when it comes to Santa Claus and Roman Catholicism (not to mention 'Secret Rapture'). Billy Graham had the same blind spot.....allowing millions to remain in damning subjection to false Christianity.

Being pre-mill, honoring Saint Nicholas, or even being Roman Catholic is no reason to claim someone is not a Christian.

I agree that the Roman cult presents a great deal of false teaching, and there should be encouragement to remove and withdraw from fraternization with such, but there are certainly believers in that group.

 

[AustinC]

Well, since it came from that fact based source The Onion

All your sources were from the onion? The link didn't mention a satirical site. So good on ya for providing fake news.

 

[Protestant]

Being pre-mill, honoring Saint Nicholas, or even being Roman Catholic is no reason to claim someone is not a Christian.

I agree that the Roman cult presents a great deal of false teaching, and there should be encouragement to remove and withdraw from fraternization with such, but there are certainly believers in that group.

I know of MANY EX-Catholics who love the Lord and witness fearlessly against the RCC because it is a fraud and anti-Christ.

Yes, there are many in Roman Catholicism who believe..... the problem is they believe lies.

You owe it to yourself to continue your studies into the teachings of the RCC, the claims of the Papacy, as well as a serious study of Church history. You should also pick up a newspaper and read of the worldwide sexual abuse of children by this satanic church. Then open your Bible and discover for yourself whether idolators, sexual deviates, murders, liars and those who do irreparable harm to children are destined for Heaven.

Why not begin your journey by finding errors and falsehoods in my thread, A Call to Biblical Truth? I welcome correction if I have misunderstood Roman Catholic doctrine, or if I quoted Scripture incorrectly.

 

[Salty]

All your sources were from the onion? The link didn't mention a satirical site. So good on ya for providing fake news.

Now for actual facts:

I WAS BEING SARCASTIC!

The info I provided about Hollywood stars is very true indeed
and is from several different sources.

 

[JesusFan]

What does grace mean when we view brother's and sister's in Christ? Will Christ Jesus make them stand or will their incapacity to meet up with the standards of one poster on the Baptist Board cause God to withhold His grace?
Reading this thread, I wonder about grace.

By the standard and measure in how how we judge, we shall be judged in return, maybe?

 

[agedman]

I know of MANY EX-Catholics who love the Lord and witness fearlessly against the RCC because it is a fraud and anti-Christ.

Yes, there are many in Roman Catholicism who believe..... the problem is they believe lies.

You owe it to yourself to continue your studies into the teachings of the RCC, the claims of the Papacy, as well as a serious study of Church history. You should also pick up a newspaper and read of the worldwide sexual abuse of children by this satanic church. Then open your Bible and discover for yourself whether idolators, sexual deviates, murders, liars and those who do irreparable harm to children are destined for Heaven.

Why not begin your journey by finding errors and falsehoods in my thread, A Call to Biblical Truth? I welcome correction if I have misunderstood Roman Catholic doctrine, or if I quoted Scripture incorrectly.

I am well aware of the failures in the RCC.

I was merely mentioning the Lord’s ability to redeem even of the occultism.

 

[agedman]

By the standard and measure in how how we judge, we shall be judged in return, maybe?

Is not the “judge not” passage specific to condemning one to eternal condemnation, rather then one not engaging discernment in matters of knowing with whom to associate?