Churches That Are Baptist but not by name

[Felipe Rios]

I was really impressed with this post. I didn't say it at the beginning of this post but I was wanting to change the name of our church and do a reset because of many reasons and the folks in the church were mostly older folks and they didn't want change. Two weeks after I left the church they closed the doors. It is on their hands I tried my best to get the church back on track.

Yea. Unfortunately many Baptists are very stuck in tradition and it is hard for them to change. At the end of the day what people need to remember is that we need to adapt to the culture without changing the word of God, in order to reach that culture. What works in my church may not work in your church, and what works in a church in America may not work in a third world country church somewhere in Africa. But this is very hard for people to grasp because they get comfortable in their way of worship.

 

[Jerome]

Good to see some churches doing the opposite, adding Baptist to their signage:

Faith Baptist Church, formerly Faith Community Church

Another:

 

[loDebar]

What Bible are you reading from?... John was the Baptist, Jesus is...

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Brother Glen

Everybody knows Catholics baptize Catholics , Methodists so baptize Methodists..... who baptized Jesus?

sorry just a old joke I was waiting to use

 

[Felipe Rios]

is it wrong to not have Baptist in your name if you are really Baptist in your belief? Are you deceiving if in your membership class you don’t explain your Baptist beliefs?

However, in the membership class I would teach that the church has Baptist doctrine even though "Baptist" is not in the name.

 

[loDebar]

then why change?

The names have left out Baptist because they then cam become anything they want, no standard, no direction.

Usually feel good youth type pep rallies. Honoring the worship manner rather than God.

 

[TCassidy]

What Bible are you reading from?... John was the Baptist, Jesus is...

If you are baptized by a Methodist that makes you a Methodist.

If you are baptized by a Presbyterian that makes you a Presbyterian.

If you are baptized by a Lutheran that makes you a Lutheran.

If you are baptized by a Baptist that makes you a Baptist.

Who was Jesus baptized by?

John the Methodist?

John the Presbyterian?

John the Lutheran?

Or, John the Baptist!

 

[Rob_BW]

Yeah, if only we focued on the fundamentals, like sound church naming conventions, we'd have far fewer churches shuttering their doors.

 

[loDebar]

If you are baptized by a Methodist that makes you a Methodist.

If you are baptized by a Presbyterian that makes you a Presbyterian.

If you are baptized by a Lutheran that makes you a Lutheran.

If you are baptized by a Baptist that makes you a Baptist.

Who was Jesus baptized by?

John the Methodist?

John the Presbyterian?

John the Lutheran?

Or, John the Baptist!

That is funny

 

[TCassidy]

Yeah, if only we focued on the fundamentals, like sound church naming conventions, we'd have far fewer churches shuttering their doors.

I had to choose between the "winner" and "funny" icon. "Winner" won by a nose.

 

[rlvaughn]

IF the reason is for deception - that might be one thing - but often it is a matter of perception. Especially up North - often over 50% of the population is Roman Catholics. Many of theses RC's would never venture into a Baptist church - but they would be willing to go to a Community church. Since the RC's are not aware of the difference doctrine - it would not be deception.

Salty, I'm having trouble coming to grips with this explanation. Whether RC's know the doctrinal difference or not, the fact is stated that they don't want to go to a Baptist Church. If they go to a "Community Church" and then find out it actually is Baptist -- the very kind of church they didn't want to go to -- why wouldn't they, why shouldn't they, feel deceived?

 

[Rob_BW]

Salty, I'm having trouble coming to grips with this explanation. Whether RC's know the doctrinal difference or not, the fact is stated that they don't want to go to a Baptist Church. If they go to a "Community Church" and then find out it actually is Baptist -- the very kind of church they didn't want to go to -- why wouldn't they, why shouldn't they, feel deceived?

If possible, I believe the better route would be to engage the community and, by the grace of God, be that baptist church that gets them to change their minds about baptist churches.

 

[Pastor Sam]

Salty, I'm having trouble coming to grips with this explanation. Whether RC's know the doctrinal difference or not, the fact is stated that they don't want to go to a Baptist Church. If they go to a "Community Church" and then find out it actually is Baptist -- the very kind of church they didn't want to go to -- why wouldn't they, why shouldn't they, feel deceived?

I know if I was RC and that happened to me I would be very mad.

 

[Salty]

How many of our Baptist members are aware of our many (different) Baptist beliefs?

I had attended (and became a member) a GARBC church for over 10 years. When I arrived in Germany - I attended 3 different baptist churches. Some of them proclaimed doctrine I had never heard about. - ie Closed communion - So if was a member for several years - and did not know all basic doctrine - they it be no surprise if a RC was aware or even concerned of such doctrines.

 

[rlvaughn]

So if was a member for several years - and did not know all basic doctrine - they it be no surprise if a RC was aware or even concerned of such doctrines.

But in the scenario you gave you said the RCs (at least certain RCs) would never be willing to venture into a Baptist Church. So whatever is their reason for not doing so is immaterial -- they (again in your scenario) were willing to go to a Community Church. Thereby, whether deliberately or accidentally, they are deceived into attending a church they would never otherwise never venture into.

 

[Wesley Briggman]

How many of our Baptist members are aware of our many (different) Baptist beliefs?

...Some of them proclaimed doctrine I had never heard about. - ie Closed communion - So if was a member for several years - and did not know all basic doctrine - they it be no surprise if a RC was aware or even concerned of such doctrines.

Closed communion is the church leadership's attempt to ensure that those receiving communion are in compliance with the following scripture. If the participates are members of a conservative Baptist assembly, their testimony is that they have been born-again - the fundamental requirement for receiving the elements without condemnation. However, being a Child of God does not, by default, make you worthy as indicated in verse 30.

1Co 11:27 KJV - Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink [this] cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
1Co 11:28 KJV - But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of [that] bread, and drink of [that] cup.
1Co 11:29 KJV - For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
1Co 11:30 KJV - For this cause many [are] weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

The Baptist church I attend does not invoke this scripture prior to serving the elements. I speculate the reason is because they do not want to offend those in attendance.

 

[OnlyaSinner]

"The Baptist church I attend does not invoke this scripture prior to serving the elements. I speculate the reason is because they do not want to offend those in attendance." (from #55)

The Baptist church I attend always does, but it's not closed communion (as I understand the phrase) but believers' communion, and only when one is in right relationship with God.

 

[Salty]

Wesley and "only a sinner"
WE are getting of track - thfis post is NOT about communion -
I only used that as an example as to the FACT that many Baptists are not familliar with
many of our doctrines - and if we are not - than a RC who attends a "Bible church" will not
be so apt to stop attending due to certain doctrines

I have started a new thread on communion

 

[Felipe Rios]

How many of our Baptist members are aware of our many (different) Baptist beliefs?

I had attended (and became a member) a GARBC church for over 10 years. When I arrived in Germany - I attended 3 different baptist churches. Some of them proclaimed doctrine I had never heard about. - ie Closed communion - So if was a member for several years - and did not know all basic doctrine - they it be no surprise if a RC was aware or even concerned of such doctrines.

We practice "closed" communion at our church- This comes from the belief that the "ekklesia" is a local body and never universal.

 

[Salty]

We practice "closed" communion at our church- This comes from the belief that the "ekklesia" is a local body and never universal.

DID YOU NOT READ POST # 57

 

[Joseph shall add]

Simple said there are no Baptist, Methodist etc in heaven. Old things are passed away and that goes for doctrine of demons as well. Only born again Christians go to heaven. When you go thru the gates they will not be looking under church roles. They will be looking at the Lambs book of life. All know in part. Which part do you know? And Which part do you not know?