Clinton to offer health care plan

[JustChristian]

More socialism from americas #1 communist. Even if she were elected this would fail to get through.

Wait until you lose your health care insurance like 50 million Americans. Then get back to us.

 

[Ivon Denosovich]

I have no health insurance. By choice, actually. I've been offered it numerous times and would simply rather role the dice and blow my money on frivolous entertainment. I figure it's my body after all. Also, I smoke, don't exercise, and eat whatever I please. The sad part about universal health care is that responsible people will be forced to insure the incessantly irrerosponsible. Namely, me.

 

[carpro]

FINALLY!

For me this is the most important issue in the upcoming election. We need universal heath care more than anything. I look forward to voting for someone who will bring this to pass.

No one is running that will bring it to pass.

We may end up with some sort of expensive hybrid coverage, but we won't end up with the mandatory "choice" plan Clinton is offering, nor any other "universal single payer" healthcare system.

 

[KenH]

Again even if she were to get elected she couldnt get it to pass.

Isn't the plan that Mitt Romney got passed in Massachusetts similar?

 

[2 Timothy2:1-4]

Wait until you lose your health care insurance like 50 million Americans. Then get back to us.

Partner I went the last three years without insurance. Please do not make assumptions you have no basis for.

 

[2 Timothy2:1-4]

Isn't the plan that Mitt Romney got passed in Massachusetts similar?

So they were sayiing. I would be less criticle of it being handled at the state level.

 

[hillclimber1]

This move on her part just may give the GOP enough to fight her. They probably won't go after her integrity, (which is very base) as she will theirs.

 

[LeBuick]

She sure been working at it long enough, didn't start this when her hubby was in office?

 

[JustChristian]

Partner I went the last three years without insurance. Please do not make assumptions you have no basis for.

My brother hasn't had health care insurance for the last 12 years and has had one major operation, one moderate operation, been hospitalized 3 other times and has to take 5 medications. he's 58 years old and has 3 Masters degrees including a MDIV and pastored a church in an urban area for 7 years which paid him almost nothing. TELL ME YOUR STORY.

 

[2 Timothy2:1-4]

My brother hasn't had health care insurance for the last 12 years and has had one major operation, one moderate operation, been hospitalized 3 other times and has to take 5 medications. he's 58 years old and has 3 Masters degrees including a MDIV and pastored a church in an urban area for 7 years which paid him almost nothing. TELL ME YOUR STORY.

ummm... I do not have a story. I am not looking to the government or actually the other tax payers to be forced to subsidize my health care. I am not making a comparison ith you or anyone else. I just responded to your false and unfounded assumption.:BangHead:

 

[saturneptune]

I am genuinely asking. Is this news to you? this is exactly where the communist Dems want to take us.

And why is it that the Democrats are going to win next year despite their bankrupt policies? It is called inept and dishonest leadership by the Republicans. They deserve to be thrashed at the polls, if not for the pathetic alternative. If you want to individualize who elected the 2nd Clinton, it was Mr Foley, Mr Craig, Mr Vitter, Mr Cheney, Mr Bush, and Mr Gonzales, to name a few.

Now, the Republican party is reduced to such a shell, that a pro abortionist is the front runner.

This is all I got to say to those of you who defended Bush and the Republican congress through liberal decision after liberal after immoral decision, you got (or are going to get) exactly what you asked for. Congratulations.

 

[saturneptune]

For months, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton has promised a plan to bring health care to every American.
She was to make good on that pledge Monday, unveiling a sweeping proposal requiring everyone to carry health insurance and offering federal subsidies to help reduce the cost of coverage.
With a price tag of about $110 billion per year, Clinton's "American Health Choices Plan" represents her first major effort to achieve universal health coverage since 1994, when the plan she authored during her husband's first term collapsed..........
..........Clinton's plan builds on the existing employer-based system of coverage. People who receive insurance through the workplace could continue to do so; businesses, in turn, would be required to offer insurance to employees, or contribute to a government-run pool that would help pay for those not covered. Clinton would also offer a tax subsidy to small businesses to help them afford the cost of providing coverage to their workers.
For individuals and families who are not covered by employers or whose employer-based coverage is inadequate, Clinton would offer expanded versions of two existing government programs: Medicare, and the health insurance plan currently offered to federal employees. Consumers could choose between either government-run program, but aides stress that no new federal bureaucracy would be created under the Clinton plan.
Aides said Clinton will propose several specific measures to pay for her plan, including an end to some of the Bush-era tax cuts for people making more than $250,000 per year.


Maybe this time around Americans will be ripe ready for socialism.
If its going to be free, why should I continue to shell out 200 dollars a month for my employer provided health care?

Maybe you can be the first patient.

 

[KenH]

And why is it that the Democrats are going to win next year despite their bankrupt policies? It is called inept and dishonest leadership by the Republicans.

There's no need to fear! Fred Thompson is here!

and

"Here I come to save the day!"

That means that Fred Thompson is on the way!

Let's see how many old codgers like me are on this board who remember where I got those two sayings from.

 

[saturneptune]

There's no need to fear! Fred Thompson is here!

and

"Here I come to save the day!"

That means that Fred Thompson is on the way!

Let's see how many old codgers like me are on this board who remember where I got those two sayings from.

That would be Mighty Mouse, and I am not that old. Oh, the other one, Underdog.

 

[KenH]

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

 

[2 Timothy2:1-4]

That would be Mighty Mouse, and I am not that old. Oh, the other one, Underdog.

Beat me to it.

 

[saturneptune]

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

These posts are quite entertaining while at this two weeks of training for the 4th time this year. No place like home.

 

[2 Timothy2:1-4]

And why is it that the Democrats are going to win next year despite their bankrupt policies? It is called inept and dishonest leadership by the Republicans. They deserve to be thrashed at the polls, if not for the pathetic alternative. If you want to individualize who elected the 2nd Clinton, it was Mr Foley, Mr Craig, Mr Vitter, Mr Cheney, Mr Bush, and Mr Gonzales, to name a few.

Now, the Republican party is reduced to such a shell, that a pro abortionist is the front runner.

This is all I got to say to those of you who defended Bush and the Republican congress through liberal decision after liberal after immoral decision, you got (or are going to get) exactly what you asked for. Congratulations.

Are you suggesting that I defend the President?

 

[saturneptune]

Are you suggesting that I defend the President?

I would never suggest defending him after the track record. At this point, it really does not matter. The time is short and the damage is done.

 

[KenH]

Cato Scholar Comments on Hillary Clinton's Health Plan

Monday 17 September 2007


Michael D. Tanner, director of health and welfare studies:

Here we go again. HillaryCare is back, and its apparent that Sen. Clinton has learned little since the American people overwhelmingly rejected her last attempt to overhaul the U.S. health care system. Once again her plan, which would cost $110 billion per year in new taxes, calls for greater government control over American health care. If her plan were to pass this time, it would mean higher taxes, lost jobs, less patient choice, and poorer quality health care.

Among the worst features of her proposal:

An individual mandate. Sen. Clinton would require every American to purchase health insurance or face penalties. There are many problems with such a mandate. It restricts individual choice and liberty. It will require a massive new bureaucracy to enforce. And it sets in motion a whole series of regulatory requirements that will ultimately lead to greater government control of our health care.

An employer mandate. Sen. Clinton would impose a “play or pay “ mandate on American businesses, requiring them to provide workers with health insurance or pay an additional tax into a government insurance fund. Such a mandate simply increases the cost of hiring workers, meaning employers will inevitably hire fewer workers. Some may even be forced to layoff current employees and others will offset their costs by reducing wages or wage increases.

Expanding government programs. Sen. Clinton would expand the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to provide benefits for middle-class families. Yet studies show that many of those who would be covered by such an expansion already have private health insurance. Thus, Sen. Clinton would simply be moving people from private insurance to taxpayer-funded government care. She would also allow people under age 65 to “buy-in” to Medicare despite the fact that the program is already facing a financial crisis.

Insurance regulation. Senator Clinton would require insurance companies to accept all applicants regardless of their health, and would impose “community rating” on health insurance premiums. As a result the young and healthy will be forced to pay more in order to subsidize the older and sicker. And those who practice healthy lifestyles will pay more to subsidize the irresponsible.

With health care, as with so many other things, Hillary Clinton clearly trusts big government more than she trusts the free market and the American people.

- www.cato.org/homepage_item.php?id=656


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