Clinton to offer health care plan

[Ivon Denosovich]

This issue does bring smokers to mind. What about us? I've tried to find an official response from the candidates who favor UniHC and can't. Anyone got a cite?

 

[2 Timothy2:1-4]

Since when did it become constitutional for congress to give up it's power to declare war to the executive? That's all the pre emptive war doctrine is, another congressional power usurped by the unitary executive.

Never happened. Congress authorized this war in 1991 and it was never ended. Weve been in a cease fire until we just went back in. You might want to get your history straight.

Just war indeed, just because powerful lobbies wanted Iraq balkanized and privatized. Mission accomplished!

No evidence can be provided to support this notion. ZIt is all specualtion from the trwirly hat guys.

 

[carpro]

This issue does bring smokers to mind. What about us? I've tried to find an official response from the candidates who favor UniHC and can't. Anyone got a cite?

With the liberal advocacy of putting government in charge of every aspect of our lives, and democrats in power, I would imagine smoking will one day be illegal or maybe taxed out of existence.

In the meantime, liberals may find some way to penalize you or completely deny you coverage in their dream plan of national healthcare.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

With the liberal advocacy of putting government in charge of every aspect of our lives, and democrats in power, I would imagine smoking will one day be illegal or maybe taxed out of existence.

In the meantime, liberals may find some way to penalize you or completely deny you coverage in their dream plan of national healthcare.

Wow! A strawman and a slippery slope fallacy in one post!

 

[carpro]

Quote:
Originally Posted by carpro
With the liberal advocacy of putting government in charge of every aspect of our lives, and democrats in power, I would imagine smoking will one day be illegal or maybe taxed out of existence.

In the meantime, liberals may find some way to penalize you or completely deny you coverage in their dream plan of national healthcare.

Wow! A strawman and a slippery slope fallacy in one post!

Think so?

Let's see what's happening in the UK:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article1364697.ece

Hewitt: smokers should stop before they’re treated

Isabel Oakeshott Deputy Political Editor

PATIENTS who are overweight or smoke should be denied operations until they are fitter, the health secretary has declared.

Patricia Hewitt says it is right for doctors to order individuals to lose weight or give up cigarettes before they are treated.



That sounds like a strong effort at government behavior control or no operation of any kind.

Fat people and smokers will be refused certain coverage and all operations unless they toe the government line.


And then there's Canada:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2006/01/19/nb_smokersurgery20060119.html

Two-pack-a-day smoker denied leg surgery
Last Updated: Thursday, January 19, 2006 | 10:58 AM AT

CBC News

An Albert County man says a Moncton doctor refused to operate on his leg because he's a smoker.
Robert Randall, 42, broke his knee in a snowmobile accident two years ago. He's already had four operations and is waiting for a fifth.

Randall says his doctor refuses to operate, even though he has screws sticking out of his knee, his femur is bent and his right leg is about 7.5 cm shorter than the left.

 

[KenH]

I would imagine smoking will one day be illegal or maybe taxed out of existence.

This is practically the case now.

 

[LeBuick]

Thats no problem Ivon. Jusy eat, drink, and be merry because according to HC you will not be turned down due to pre-existing conditions. So destroy your body with fine cigars, fine scotch, and all the trans fats that you can shove down your throat. Then when your heart explodes, get health insurance.

I vote we make you the surgeon general… You seen to know about medical stuff...

 

[saturneptune]

I vote we make you the surgeon general… You seen to know about medical stuff...

Better yet, I think he should be appointed National Poet for the Hillary Administration.

 

[hillclimber1]

Now, the Republican party is reduced to such a shell, that a pro abortionist is the front runner.

This is all I got to say to those of you who defended Bush and the Republican congress through liberal decision after liberal after immoral decision, you got (or are going to get) exactly what you asked for. Congratulations.

OK SN, this really ticked me off..........till I sat here awhile composing this response.

Just like slick, I pray for this president regularly.