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CNN: “2020 Democrats are the Dumbest”

FollowTheWay

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Evidence please
He admires dictators like Putin, Xi and Un. He wants to have control over America like they have over their countries. He also has talked a third term. He hasn't worked with the Congress much at all and has a disdain for our courts. Many of his hard-core followers talk about a second civil war if he loses the 2020 election or is impeached. He demanded a military parade with tanks because he admires those held by Russia and China.
 

Revmitchell

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He admires dictators like Putin, Xi and Un. He wants to have control over America like they have over their countries. He also has talked a third term. He hasn't worked with the Congress much at all and has a disdain for our courts. Many of his hard-core followers talk about a second civil war if he loses the 2020 election or is impeached. He demanded a military parade with tanks because he admires those held by Russia and China.

I asked for evidence not your delusional commentary.
 

Revmitchell

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I have all the evidence I need. You will never listen to a rational argument against Trump so I'm not going to waste my time.

THE RESISTANCE IS STRONG

You are not going to answer because you cannot. You claim to be about evidence and facts in other posts but once again you cannot.
 

FollowTheWay

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Nope, according to the WSJ, he got the idea from the French. Last year, Trump was Macron's guest of honor at the Bastille Day parade in Paris. The last I looked, France wasn't a dictatorship.
Actually, that's true but he has also complimented communist dictators about their prades.
You are not going to answer because you cannot. You claim to be about evidence and facts in other posts but once again you cannot.
I made some arguments. Refute them and I'll answer with the same level of proof you use.
 

Adonia

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So you want a dictator? I thought most people here want term limits. I support our system of a Democratic Republic as well as term limits.

It's "Constitutional Republic", whose leaders are elected in a Democratic fashion (and even in that way to a point). The words "Democracy" or "Democratic" are mentioned nowhere in the Federal Constitution.
 

Adonia

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Obama didn't act like a king. He acted like the President of the United States. I wish Trump could do that. World leaders couldn't believe he took his daughter to the G-20 meeting representing America. At this point in his presidency, Trump has executed many more executive orders than Obama did. Nothing will really make me feel better until Trump is out of office.

It's not how many Executive Orders a President issues, it's whether or not they are confined to an Executive Branch power.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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When every post I enter is answered with a personal insult I just don't feel like dealing with the person. Would you?
Yeah, you are a bit outnumbered here, thank God. But not nearly all of your posts are answered with personal insults, and you do your own fair share of seriously insulting others, as well as thinking far more highly of yourself than warranted, so you really have little room for complaint. So just do what you usually say you are going to do--ignore whatever sounds insulting and address the issues.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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When every post I enter is answered with a personal insult I just don't feel like dealing with the person. Would you?
While we are at it, FTW, you seem to be assiduously avoiding addressing the OP. Do you agree that the Dem presidential nominee seekers are demonstrating a high degree of stupidity on the debate stage? Or do you agree more with Van that they have the right ideas but are lacking in presentation? Or do you have some other opinion about the platforms of these hopefuls?
 

Adonia

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Because the Executive Branch is a co-equal part of the Federal government and many laws that the Congress passes are broad in scope so that the Chief Executive can administer according changing conditions. So, as long as the Executive administers the law in the context of the law it is lawful.

Look, I know we don't agree as we look at Trump and Obama, but Obama's DACA was a clear violation of this directive. He is on video many times speaking before Hispanic audiences telling them that there is nothing he could do concerning non citizens who came here as children and somehow make them legal.

He is on record saying this time and time again, telling them that Congress needs to change the law and then he can do something. Then right out of the blue he came out with this Executive Order creating DACA, which is in truth a change in the immigration law and that is not a power that he as the President has, not just him but any President.

Up to now and with his Executive Orders, President Trump has not done anything like that. If you have any examples that President Trump has done such things, I am ready to listen.
 

FollowTheWay

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Because the Executive Branch is a co-equal part of the Federal government and many laws that the Congress passes are broad in scope so that the Chief Executive can administer according changing conditions. So, as long as the Executive administers the law in the context of the law it is lawful.

Look, I know we don't agree as we look at Trump and Obama, but Obama's DACA was a clear violation of this directive. He is on video many times speaking before Hispanic audiences telling them that there is nothing he could do concerning non citizens who came here as children and somehow make them legal.

He is on record saying this time and time again, telling them that Congress needs to change the law and then he can do something. Then right out of the blue he came out with this Executive Order creating DACA, which is in truth a change in the immigration law and that is not a power that he as the President has, not just him but any President.

Up to now and with his Executive Orders, President Trump has not done anything like that. If you have any examples that President Trump has done such things, I am ready to listen.
Trump changed the immigration law to exclude Muslims. Right?
 

FollowTheWay

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Because the Executive Branch is a co-equal part of the Federal government and many laws that the Congress passes are broad in scope so that the Chief Executive can administer according changing conditions. So, as long as the Executive administers the law in the context of the law it is lawful.

Look, I know we don't agree as we look at Trump and Obama, but Obama's DACA was a clear violation of this directive. He is on video many times speaking before Hispanic audiences telling them that there is nothing he could do concerning non citizens who came here as children and somehow make them legal.

He is on record saying this time and time again, telling them that Congress needs to change the law and then he can do something. Then right out of the blue he came out with this Executive Order creating DACA, which is in truth a change in the immigration law and that is not a power that he as the President has, not just him but any President.

Up to now and with his Executive Orders, President Trump has not done anything like that. If you have any examples that President Trump has done such things, I am ready to listen.
Did Obama say he didn't have the right to issue DACA?
Obama hedged but didn't say he lacked legal right on DACA

Trump said that when Obama signed the executive order on DACA, he acknowledged that he didn’t have the right to do it.
The smaller errors in that statement are that Obama didn’t sign an executive order, and that when he announced the new policy, he didn’t say that he lacked the authority.
The bigger issue is that in 2010 and 2011, Obama reserved the right to enforce immigration laws selectively. His emphasis was on deporting criminals who were undocumented, rather than undocumented students or workers who presented no threat to public safety.


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Adonia

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Trump changed the immigration law to exclude Muslims. Right?

No he didn't. The only thing he did was to use his executive power to place a moratorium on them coming in from certain countries. Jimmy Carter used the same executive power to stop Iranians from coming into the country and not one person raised any objections to him doing that back then.
 
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