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CNN: “2020 Democrats are the Dumbest”

Adonia

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The bigger issue is that in 2010 and 2011, Obama reserved the right to enforce immigration laws selectively. His emphasis was on deporting criminals who were undocumented, rather than undocumented students or workers who presented no threat to public safety.

Oh I see, but President Trump cannot use the same law as it just happens to be written? So let me get this straight, Obama picks and chooses how to enforce the law and that is okay, but Trump wants the whole law to be enforced and that is not okay? I'm sorry, but I just cannot wrap my head around that type of reasoning.
 
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RighteousnessTemperance&

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Did Obama say he didn't have the right to issue DACA?
Yes, he had already admitted he didn't, which is why Maher said he was acting like a king when he did it anyway.
The bigger issue is that in 2010 and 2011, Obama reserved the right to enforce immigration laws selectively. His emphasis was on deporting criminals who were undocumented, rather than undocumented students or workers who presented no threat to public safety.
No, the bigger issue is that no one has either the legal authority or right to come here illegally, bring someone here illegally, admit someone here illegally, or harbor someone here illegally. All of those things are, you guessed it, illegal.

Further, no families are being separated by enforcing immigration laws. All illegals, unless incarcerated for other crimes, are free to leave any time, and their families, unless incarcerated for crimes, are free to accompany them when they leave.

If they are separated, it is their own choice, their own doing, not the fault of the US government. Let them take what they've learned here and return to their own countries, of which they seem so proud, to do there what has already been done for America. We don't need them here for that, but their own countries evidently do.
 

Adonia

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The smaller errors in that statement are that Obama didn’t sign an executive order, and that when he announced the new policy, he didn’t say that he lacked the authority.

He said time and time again that he could not do such a thing all by himself.

Responding in October 2010 to demands that he implement immigration reforms unilaterally, Obama declared, "I am not king. I can't do these things just by myself."

In March 2011, he said that with "respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that's just not the case."

In May 2011, he acknowledged that he couldn't "just bypass Congress and change the (immigration) law myself. That's not how a democracy works."

So no Executive Order was issued by him, so he then had the policy implemented by the Department of Homeland security. A dodge if there ever was one.
 

Adonia

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He admires dictators like Putin, Xi and Un.

No. He respects them just like they respect him. President Trump talked about "Rocket Man" Kim of North Korea and said we would strike hard if we had to - the next thing you know he and Kim are meeting.

President Trump sent lethal weapons to the Ukrainians, while Obama sent only non-lethal stuff. In the case of China, President Trump institutes tariffs and plays the tough game, Obama did nothing but keep the status quo.

Face it, towards Obama they had nothing but disdain and they viewed him as weak. Remember when Obama said to Medvedev of Russia: "Tell President Putin that I will have more leeway after the election"?

What he really meant was: Tell President Putin I will do whatever he wants me to do after the election. When Obama didn't strike militarily after the Syrians crossed his "red line", Putin and the rest of the world knew exactly what Obama was - a weak paper tiger of a President.
 
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RighteousnessTemperance&

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When every post I enter is answered with a personal insult I just don't feel like dealing with the person. Would you?
After listening to the CNN clip again, they did little to dispel the impression that the Dems are openly flat out Socialist in the worst way. The only thing they seemed to be saying is that it is unwise to be so obvious about it.

In other words, they see voters as stupid enough to ignore the coming Socialist disaster the Dems envision, if they deceptively promise a few things that sound less Socialist. Unfortunately, they are likely correct. Hopefully, the voters that count are on to them at this point.
 

just-want-peace

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Obama didn't act like a king. He acted like the President of the United States. I wish Trump could do that. World leaders couldn't believe he took his daughter to the G-20 meeting representing America. At this point in his presidency, Trump has executed many more executive orders than Obama did. Nothing will really make me feel better until Trump is out of office.

ROTFLMAO -- :Roflmao:Rolleyes:Tongue:eek::Laugh
I'm sure the Saudi king liked him as president ----- for whatever that's worth!!
 

Agent47

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You discussed how far along Trump was to do aware with term limits. Correct? That is not a figure of speech and there are millions of people in America fighting hard to prevent him from taking over as a dictator which he obviously wants to do.

America is not a third world country. It is impossible for Trump to do that
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Oh I see, but President Trump cannot use the same law as it just happens to be written? So let me get this straight, Obama picks and chooses how to enforce the law and that is okay, but Trump wants the whole law to be enforced and that is not okay? I'm sorry, but I just cannot wrap my head around that type of reasoning.
That is because it is not reasoning but rationalization, an all too typical Dem double standard in action.
 
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