Phillip concerning the Albuquerque Journal link that didn't work:
//Maybe it was taken down by the GOVERNMENT.//
LadyEagle: //It probably was. I went to Way Back Machine and got
it from there (the archive): And I shortened the link for Browser's Sake.
//Here's the link//
Thank you for the working link, Sister LadyEagle.
It shows the reactions of responsible parties.
A man makes a bad guess and the Newspaper prints it.
Later the man sees his error and has the Newspaper retract it.
But the initial posting it here shows how un-responsible,
terrorist-like parties might do things. They might quote
the man's initial (but wrong) saying and try to convince
everyone it is the SOLID TRUTH. They might try to make it
uncheckable.
Parties posing here are as pure as the driven snow.
I'm talking about parties NOT posing here and what they MIGHT
do to trick us into believing their terrorist lies.
StraightAndNarrow
//What exactly do you really know ANYTHING about? //
I have the equivalent study of Conspiracy Theories which would
have lead to a master's degree, had I cared to apply it so.
On a bb (bulletin board) long ago & far away (maybe 1989)
i made something like "The Ed's Conspiracy Rating tool" where
I gave formlulae for determining the severity of a Conspiracy.
(Severity is INTENTION TO HARM versus CAPABILITY TO HARM.
SOmething like the CENTUAR-3's EARTH FARM has intentions of using
us all for food for the starving Felines on Centuar-3; they
have no capability, only intention. So don't worry about them.
The Russians can destroy all human life (maybe all higher life-forms)
on the face of the earth. However, they are trying to raise
next months rent on the apartment, so have no intentions of doing it.
So there is no proplem there. The ones to worry about are the ones
with great intent to do harm and the capability to do it.
Oh yes, my other 'could be a Master's' is in World employment
of torture techniques. So I know stuff about the New World Order (NWO)
that the conspiring ones themselves don't know.
StraightAndNarrow: //Aren't you the guy who on another thread claimed
to be an "expert" in cellular communications.//
No, I don't think he is. Anyway, you don't have to be an expert
in a given area to recognize to recognize propaganda, gossip, etc.
in that area.
StraightAndNarrow: //The design engineers didn't mess up big time.
They just didn't design the building to withstand explosions
from planted demolition explosives.//
As you know, engineers make engineering decisions.
The odds a plane will kill you while flying into your building
is 1/400,000. In central Oklahoma in 1999 the average home
had a value of 45,000$. The cost to protect a 45,000 for the
tornado that hit Moore with rotating winds of 316MPH (That is
316 Miles Per hour) is like ¼ of 1 million bucks. It is easier
to hid from the storm (each 10 neighbors can pool and have
a $50,000 storm shelter underground. It is easier to build
another $45,000 home then to pay 295,000$ for a shack that is
only good up to about 130MPH straight winds.
Meanwhile, only 400 homes were destroyed by that tornado out
of 1,100,000 homes in Oklahoma. Consider you are the
government of OKlahoma with a tax base of 4,000 million$
a year. Every ten years maybe you have to rebuild 400 homes
at a cost (now) of 200 Million Dollars OR build
250,000 x 1,100,000 = 250,000 Million$ You don't have a choice.
Even $5,000 a house shelter would only run 5,000 Million$ -
2% of the cost of building tornado proof houses. BTW,
in 1999, Norman, OK, the home of the US Government Severe Weather
Labs had reseached Dopplar Radar so they could see inside
a tornado. The 316MPH winds found there were 80% to 100%
MORE than any model had predicted. SO even if there had been
1% of the US BUdget in 1998 used for OKlahoma
tornado proof houses, that tornado would have blown then away.
It makes no money sense to build aircraft collision proof
buildings. It makes lots of sense to protect aircraft
from being stolen by bad guys.
LadyEagle: //quote:
---
The plane to which Carter refers was an aircraft chartered
by the Saudi government in the days after the terrorist attacks.
The individuals were two dozen members of Osama bin Laden's
extended family who had been living in the United States.
Saying they were afraid that family members might suffer
retribution in the U.S., the Saudis asked for American
assistance in getting them out of the country.
With the help of the FBI, the Saudis and the bin Laden
family chartered an aircraft to pick up family members
in Los Angeles, Orlando, and Washington, D.C.
The bin Laden plane then flew the relatives to Boston,
where — one week after the attacks — the group left
Logan Airport bound for Jeddah.
---
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york091102.asp
//I initially read about this in the Boston Herald right after 09/11.
There were several articles about it. I found this article
by looking through my own files. After Bush had a known terrorist
imam praying to Allah in the Memorial Service at the National
Cathedral and had a photo op with muslims praising their
religion was when I started my own personal investigation about
just who was this guy I voted for. I got my eyes opened, even though
it was a grevious personal experience for me to have to go through that.//
I'm sorry about your grief.
There were lots of hate crimes committed against innocent people who
look middle eastern
I know unintellegent people beat up a Sikh from India thinking
he was Arab Muslim??? He ran a convienence store in my town.
My Governor had to call the local gasoline sales persons
and make them shut down their stores or keep the same prices.
They shut down the stores for awile.
BTW, I didn't vote for Bush the first time (I didn't vote for
Al 'antichrist' Gore either) I don't think any family should have
more than one President, ever: not the Bushes, not the Rosevelts,
not the Kennedys.
So my president tryed to defuse the misdirected anger at
the wrong people. I find nothing wrong with that.
Poncho: //you haven't
proven anything other than you can claim to be an expert
and change your profile just in time to fit your claim,
can I change my profile also? I would like to be known
as a vision panel engineer and architectural draftsman
instead of a glazing contractor.
Poncho: //Talk about a rigged game. //
tee hee. Of course you can change your profile
any time you want. But be honest, I have a copy of your BB
profile in Google Space tee hee
Poncho: //I didn't know that moderators were allowed
to set the conditions
of a debate to make sure only their side is heard.//
I didn't either, and still don't.
However, I am NOT a moderator, so I get to have an opinion.
IMHO the quoting and debating of Conspirasy Theories is a
detriment to the main activity of the BB. If allowed at all,
it should be hidden so deep nobody will ever figure out the
password.
Poncho: //BTW, this "garbage as you call it has everything to do with
WTC, the article in question claims to debunk the
"conspriacy theories" by setting up and knocking down
it's own strawmen, and not using references to the "experts"
and the research it claims to base it's facts on. //
YOur fallicy is showing.
IT doesn't take a rocket surgeon to identify bunk.
