Common Grace.....yes, or no...

[Van]

Yet another personal attack, now we have the implication that someone unnamed is void of understanding.

Here is the truth, 1 Corinthians 3:1-3 teaches men of flesh can understand, because of common grace, the spiritual milk of the gospel. Men of flesh, cannot understand spiritual meat, the things of the Spirit being addressed in 1 Corinthians 2:14.

Christ dying for all mankind provides the common grace of the opportunity for salvation to all. 1 Timothy 2:4-6.

And the common grace of the gospel is the power of God for salvation. No special grace needed. Romans 1:16.

Here is a snippet from the long blurb. "Grace is never conditioned by faith," But just take a gander at Ephesians 2:8, For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

The advocates of the nameless doctrine seem to have thrown Ephesians 2:8 on their discard pile.

 

[Iconoclast]

Yet another personal attack, now we have the implication that someone unnamed is void of understanding.

Here is the truth, 1 Corinthians 3:1-3 teaches men of flesh can understand, because of common grace, the spiritual milk of the gospel. Men of flesh, cannot understand spiritual meat, the things of the Spirit being addressed in 1 Corinthians 2:14.

Christ dying for all mankind provides the common grace of the opportunity for salvation to all. 1 Timothy 2:4-6.

And the common grace of the gospel is the power of God for salvation. No special grace needed. Romans 1:16.

Proverbs 29:11
A fool uttereth all his mind: but a wise man keepeth it in till afterwards.
5. No trolling. Trolling consists of provoking large volumes of responses by posting absurdities

 

[Iconoclast]

Van,

ROFLOL, Calvin's position on common grace. You have got to be kidding.

At least he understood that which you seem unable to grasp.....seems to be a total inability to understand...

But Father Adam’s rebellion has spread its infection across the whole human race, and the malignancy has invaded every recess of our personalities. Sin spreads throughout the race: “There is none righteous, not even one, none who understands, none who seeks God . . . none who does kindness, not so much as one” (Rom 3:10-12). And sin permeates the individual, from his lying tongue, poisonous lips and cursing mouth, to his bloodthirsty feet and shameless eyes (3:13-18). No nook or cranny of our identity has survived uninfected by sin’s lethal spiritual virus. The only remedy to this race-encompassing, personality-pervading defilement is the regenerating power of the Holy Spirit, giving new life to the spiritually dead.

 

[Iconoclast]

I. The Paradox of Common Grace

“Why do good things happen through bad people?” This question, which virtually turns inside out the title of Rabbi Harold Kushner’s twenty-year-old best-seller, [1] expresses the real enigma that faces us when we try to interpret human experience in the light of the biblical doctrine of man. The problem is not that bad things happen to allegedly-good people, but that good things happen to and through people who are dead in sin, adamant in rebellion against their Creator. This is the “paradox of common grace,” described more elegantly by Professor John Murray in his 1942 essay:

. . .i f we appreciate the implications of total depravity, then we are faced with a series of very insistent questions. How is it that men who still lie under the wrath and curse of God and are heirs of hell enjoy so many good gifts at the hand of God? How is it that men who are not savingly renewed by the Spirit of God nevertheless exhibit so many qualities, gifts, and accomplishments that promote the preservation, temporal happiness, cultural progress, social and economic improvement of themselves and of others? How is it that races and peoples that have been apparently untouched by the redemptive and regenerative influences of the gospel contribute so much to what we call human civilization? [2]

The non-Christian worldview and the Christian worldview “are two absolutely different starting points, which have nothing in common in their origin. Parallel lines never intersect. You have to choose either the one or the other.” [5]

If we believe in total depravity and spiritual antithesis, then, must we deny that non-Christians’ “qualities, gifts and accomplishments” are admirable in any sense? Is the apparent good that Murray cited merely illusion? Let us think specifically of the noetic effects of total depravity—sin’s distorting influence on our thinking and understanding: our presuppositions, perceptions, and processes of interpretation and reasoning. [6] Those who deny the living God of the Bible begin their thinking on the wrong foot, willfully blind to the most significant feature of every object in the universe and every event in history-the fact that every creature and its every action depend on the Creator and bear witness to the Creator. Should we assume, then, that non-Christians’ so-called “insights” into science, the arts, history, philosophy, human personality and society are inevitably, universally and thoroughly false, misled and misleading, to be contradicted at every point?

On the other hand, if we deny or minimize the motif of common grace, we run the risk of intellectual arrogance, a defensive isolationism from the culture in general and the academy in particular. Such isolationism deprives Christian theologians (and Christian thinkers in other disciplines) of important resources for testing and correcting our own ideas and interpretations. A devaluation of God’s goodness in common grace may also foster an anti-intellectualism that despises God’s general revelation in the created order and his providential dealings in history. Spiritually, ignoring common grace may foster attitudes of suspicion, antipathy, and contempt toward non-Christians.

 

[Van]

As has been demonstrated, the unnamed doctrines views of Common grace are unbiblical and bogus.

The men of Matthew 23:13 were seeking God, therefore total spiritual inability is bogus, and the lost enjoy of common grace of being able to understand spiritual milk, 1 Cor. 3:1-3.

Christ dying for all mankind provides the common grace of the opportunity for salvation to all. 1 Timothy 2:4-6.

And the common grace of the gospel is the power of God for salvation. No special grace needed. Romans 1:16.

Here is a snippet from the long blurb. "Grace is never conditioned by faith," But just take a gander at Ephesians 2:8, For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

 

[Iconoclast]

As has been demonstrated, the unnamed doctrines views of Common grace are unbiblical and bogus.

The men of Matthew 23:13 were seeking God, therefore total spiritual inability is bogus, and the lost enjoy of common grace of being able to understand spiritual milk, 1 Cor. 3:1-3.

Christ dying for all mankind provides the common grace of the opportunity for salvation to all. 1 Timothy 2:4-6.

And the common grace of the gospel is the power of God for salvation. No special grace needed. Romans 1:16.

Here is a snippet from the long blurb. "Grace is never conditioned by faith," But just take a gander at Ephesians 2:8, For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

17 And their word will eat as doth a canker

 

[Van]

I do my best to study to show myself approved. Some might see my efforts as missing the mark. But then if the mark was clear to them, they might reference it.

Here is the truth, 1 Corinthians 3:1-3 teaches men of flesh can understand, because of common grace, the spiritual milk of the gospel. Men of flesh, cannot understand spiritual meat, the things of the Spirit being addressed in 1 Corinthians 2:14.

Christ dying for all mankind provides the common grace of the opportunity for salvation to all. 1 Timothy 2:4-6.

And the common grace of the gospel is the power of God for salvation. No special grace needed. Romans 1:16.

Here is a snippet from the long blurb. "Grace is never conditioned by faith," But just take a gander at Ephesians 2:8, For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

The advocates of the nameless doctrine seem to have thrown Ephesians 2:8 on their discard pile.

 

[Iconoclast]

Van,

Yet another personal attack

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really????

now we have the implication that someone unnamed is void of understanding.

if the person "void of understanding" was "unnamed".....and now you claim this is a personal attack???? would that mean you are now attacking yourself?

 

[Iconoclast]

Van,

I do my best to study to show myself approved. Some might see my efforts as missing the mark.

Some might see it as you do...missing the mark, but others see a pattern of trolling on this thread and almost all others you post on....
here is rule 5

5. No trolling. Trolling consists of provoking large volumes of responses by posting absurdities.....most of your posts in this thread, now derailed are trolling posts according to this rule 5.

 

[Van]

Here is the truth, 1 Corinthians 3:1-3 teaches men of flesh can understand, because of common grace, the spiritual milk of the gospel. Men of flesh, cannot understand spiritual meat, the things of the Spirit being addressed in 1 Corinthians 2:14.

Christ dying for all mankind provides the common grace of the opportunity for salvation to all. 1 Timothy 2:4-6.

And the common grace of the gospel is the power of God for salvation. No special grace needed. Romans 1:16.

Here is a snippet from the long blurb. "Grace is never conditioned by faith," But just take a gander at Ephesians 2:8, For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

The advocates of the nameless doctrine seem to have thrown Ephesians 2:8 on their discard pile.

 

[Iconoclast]

Here is the truth, 1 Corinthians 3:1-3 teaches men of flesh can understand, because of common grace, the spiritual milk of the gospel. Men of flesh, cannot understand spiritual meat, the things of the Spirit being addressed in 1 Corinthians 2:14.

Christ dying for all mankind provides the common grace of the opportunity for salvation to all. 1 Timothy 2:4-6.

And the common grace of the gospel is the power of God for salvation. No special grace needed. Romans 1:16.

Here is a snippet from the long blurb. "Grace is never conditioned by faith," But just take a gander at Ephesians 2:8, For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

The advocates of the nameless doctrine seem to have thrown Ephesians 2:8 on their discard pile.

cutting and pasting your own error does not make it turn to truth....still an off topic post. just tacking on the words common grace, does not insure you are speaking on the topic.

 

[Van]

Yet another off topic personal attack containing no rebuttal or response to the Biblical view of common grace presented in post # 70.

Simply put, common grace refers to the blessings from God available to all mankind, such as salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. Supporting this blessing is our God given ability to understand the milk of the gospel. And this gospel, the work product of the Holy Spirit, is yet another blessing for all mankind.

Christ dying for all mankind provides the common grace of the opportunity for salvation to all. 1 Timothy 2:4-6.

And the common grace of the gospel is the power of God for salvation. No special grace needed. Romans 1:16.

 

[Iconoclast]

Yet another off topic personal attack containing no rebuttal or response to the Biblical view of common grace presented in post # 70.

Simply put, common grace refers to the blessings from God available to all mankind, such as salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. Supporting this blessing is our God given ability to understand the milk of the gospel. And this gospel, the work product of the Holy Spirit, is yet another blessing for all mankind.

Christ dying for all mankind provides the common grace of the opportunity for salvation to all. 1 Timothy 2:4-6.

And the common grace of the gospel is the power of God for salvation. No special grace needed. Romans 1:16.

still wrong, still off topic, still trolling

 

[Van]

Yet another off topic personal attack devoid of content concerning common grace.

Here is the truth, 1 Corinthians 3:1-3 teaches men of flesh can understand, because of common grace, the spiritual milk of the gospel. Men of flesh, cannot understand spiritual meat, the things of the Spirit being addressed in 1 Corinthians 2:14.

Christ dying for all mankind provides the common grace of the opportunity for salvation to all. 1 Timothy 2:4-6.

And the common grace of the gospel is the power of God for salvation. No special grace needed. Romans 1:16.