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Commonly misquoted bible verses

Iconoclast

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You have Ezekiel 36 on the brain. Is that the only chapter in the BOOK you're aware of?

I'm really curious what is the focal point of Ezek 36 that you're obsessed with.
He thinks it can only apply to Israel because it was written in the Ot.
 

37818

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The message was to be delivered by John to the pastors (angels, messengers) of those churches for the benefit of those churches. The Pastors were then to take it to the church members. Not sure where you miss that.
In the text Jesus speaks to and addresses individually each messenger. Read the Geek. Or KJV, Darby Translation, ASV or MLV. Even the NWT. The MLV uses a degree symbol for plural pronouns. The NWT use small caps for plural pronouns.
 

InTheLight

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He thinks it can only apply to Israel because it was written in the Ot.
And we have a #4.

No, I'm pointing out that Calvinists say these other verses don't apply to us because they were written to Israel. Ezekiel 36 is *specifically* written to Israel--it says so several times in the text itself--yet Calvinists misapply the "new heart" portion to claim regeneration is needed prior to belief.

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kyredneck

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Ezekiel 36 is *specifically* written to Israel--it says so several times in the text itself

So forget about the children of promise, it's all about Israel after the flesh, right?:

6 But it is not as though the word of God hath come to nought. For they are not all Israel, that are of Israel:
7 neither, because they are Abraham`s seed, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh that are children of God; but the children of the promise are reckoned for a seed. Ro 9

There's a multitude of OT scriptures that plainly addresses the nation of Israel that the NT writers plainly applys to the New Covenant.
 

kyredneck

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He thinks it can only apply to Israel because it was written in the Ot.

I did a search of his incessant references to Ezek 36, it's his anti-Sovereign Grace and obsession with the evils of Calvinism that keeps the veil of Moses over his eyes.
 

Iconoclast

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And we have a #4.

No, I'm pointing out that Calvinists say these other verses don't apply to us because they were written to Israel. Ezekiel 36 is *specifically* written to Israel--it says so several times in the text itself--yet Calvinists misapply the "new heart" portion to claim regeneration is needed prior to belief.

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Regeneration is the same for Noah, Enoch,saved Jews, saved gentiles..
All the same
 

rlvaughn

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How about verses that are attributed to the Bible, but aren't actually IN the Bible?
Around here this type is referred to as "Chimney Corner Scriptures" -- maybe because people shared them as Scripture while sitting and talking near the chimney?
 

InTheLight

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So forget about the children of promise, it's all about Israel after the flesh, right?:

6 But it is not as though the word of God hath come to nought. For they are not all Israel, that are of Israel:
7 neither, because they are Abraham`s seed, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh that are children of God; but the children of the promise are reckoned for a seed. Ro 9

There's a multitude of OT scriptures that plainly addresses the nation of Israel that the NT writers plainly applys to the New Covenant.

#3.
 

rlvaughn

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John could write letters to earthly messengers, but how does he write a letter to a heavenly messenger?
I won't go long on that here since it is sort of off topic. But here is what I concluded, with the rest of what I wrote about it at the following link.
Does it make any sense that the Lord would address the letter to the church to "the angel"? Does it matter whether it does? The Lord said the stars are angels. The star is the symbol. The angel is the interpretation.
Stars are angels
 

Iconoclast

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Oh, so that "baptism" of the Holy Spirit in the "new" covenant was really superfluous, same old same old.
It was actually similar to the Shekinah filling Solomon's temple.
It showed the Nt . Church was God's place of meeting with His people.
 

GoodTidings

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How about verses that are attributed to the Bible, but aren't actually IN the Bible?

"God helps those who help themselves."

"When God closes a door, he opens a window."

"God hates the sin, but loves the sinner."

"The lion shall lie down with the lamb."
Spare the rod and spoil the child.
 

Revmitchell

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1 Corinthians 2:14 is often quoted as speaking of a comparison of the lost to the saved. It is actually talking to believers with a comparison of their use of worldly thinking vs. spiritual thinking.

John 6:44 is often quoted as referring to salvation. What it is actually referring to is the revealing of Jesus to those certain Jews.
 

InTheLight

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1 Corinthians 2:14 is often quoted as speaking of a comparison of the lost to the saved. It is actually talking to believers with a comparison of their use of worldly thinking vs. spiritual thinking.

John 6:44 is often quoted as referring to salvation. What it is actually referring to is the revealing of Jesus to those certain Jews.

I would also add that the context of 1 Cor. 2 is concerning the ability to understand deeper spiritual matters and not the inability to understand the Gospel.
 
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