I Love An Atheist
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Absolutely, but vengeance belongs to the Lord.
I addressed this point in another post in this thread. I refer you to that reply.
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Absolutely, but vengeance belongs to the Lord.
Absolutely, but vengeance belongs to the Lord.
First of all, I don' think much of a man who would bring his family to a place in the world of such danger. Secondly, if converting to Islam would have saved his family from any harm then that is what he should have done, and then be prepared to deal with the consequences before Almightly God at the appropriate time. It' s called being a man and saving others.
If you didn't have a pistol then fight the rapist with your bare hands and die if necessary. I don' know how you could possibly live with yourself if you did nothing in the face of pure evil.
Vengeance is retaliatory, after the event; defence applies during the event. So I don't see how Dave's quoted Scripture is any use in a scenario where one needs to defend oneself or your loved ones
Sounds like the Wild West without Wyatt Earp.
Do you hate anything that hinders your relationship with Christ? My wife does not, nor any other close relative.
If you convert to Islam and then die before you repent, you will go to hell. I would rather that they murdered me than join their satanic cult but I am old and do not have so long to go anyway since I am on borrowed time.
No, what Paul said was let "every soul" be subject to the higher powers, meaning even rulers are subject to the law of God.But Paul tells us to be subject to the government. Never to defend it. And whatever government takes control, that's our government.
If you convert to Islam and then die before you repent, you will go to hell. I would rather that they murdered me than join their satanic cult but I am old and do not have so long to go anyway since I am on borrowed time.
This is a true story. A co-worker of my husband's sat in McDonalds in Anchorage, Alaska eating with his friend. His friend's children were present as well. A man came in with a gun and threatened the employee behind the counter. The co-worker's friend, former military, got his gun out and held it under the table. He waited and watched. As soon as the gun holder at the counter waved his gun toward the kids, the co-worker's friend shot him before he could fire a bullet. He was instantly dead. The police came and approved it. It was within Alaska law.
This man was obedient to the law in his actions. Was he wrong according to God's Higher Law? (Dave?)
I admire this man, but I think he should have done this as a single man. Not with a family. Maybe this is the reason why Jesus and the apostles were single.
It's a difficult one: do you think Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego could have pleaded the 'conversion by duress defence' if they'd bottled it at the door of the furnace?
It's a difficult one: do you think Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego could have pleaded the 'conversion by duress defence' if they'd bottled it at the door of the furnace?
Thanks for the reply. Paul equates the higher powers with the person called the magistrate.No, what Paul said was let "every soul" be subject to the higher powers, meaning even rulers are subject to the law of God.