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Conceal Carry in Church?

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12strings

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So assuming Crabby's logic, we should not allow police officers to carry guns either, because they shoot people by accident also.
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Mex, you are totally illogical here. Completely different subject.

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Not at all, you are arguing against some people having guns for the protection of others in a certain situation based on the fact that an innocent person might get hurt...if that logic were valid, it should apply to all situations...as a blanket statement:

No good person should carry a gun, even though we know lots of bad people carry and use guns...because we would rather allow the bad people to kill whoever they are going to kill rather than open up the possibility that a good person might accidentally hurt or kill someone.
 
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Our church is an approximately 300 member church in the St. Louis Metro area. We have quite a few members that we allow with concealed carry on our premisses. We certainly don't discourage it.
 
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Alive in Christ

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Gosh, I am begining to think that brother Tcasiddy might be a "couple of marbles short" ...if you get my drift. :(
 
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Havensdad

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Crabtownboy said:
And how are you going to feel about the church members you kill or maim in attempting to shoot the gunman?

You are a "In my weapons I trust" man, all the way.
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That is outright slander. I don't trust guns because I carry one, any more than I trust in jumper cables. Its a tool to use for an emergency. Do you likewise criticize people for owning jumper cables, or buying insurance?

Your kind of a ridiculous, illogical sort, aren't you? Jesus commanded us to buy a weapon. I will obey.

FYI: I am trained. I wouldn't shoot innocents. Its actually quite simple, when you actually know what you are doing.
 
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Havensdad

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Crabtownboy said:
And as you so kindly pointed out anyone with an IQ larger than their hat size will realize that you are not going to be trying to shoot as a stationary target with stationary non-targets around him/her. There will be pandemonium with people moving all around. The likelihood of hitting an innocent person would be very high.

The list you give is a good one. But to follow those rules will require time and in this situation you do not have time. Additionally by the time you are ready to shoot it is highly probable that men in the church will be struggling to subdue the man. You will not be shooting on a firing range in this situation. It will be dynamic, not stationary.

A pastor or another person with a pistol is very likely to hit an innocent person.

Could you live with that?

By the way I grew up with rifles and shotguns and hunted often when I was young, so I do know something of what I am talking about.
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Your contention is ridiculous, because in the situation where no one has a gun, the gunman KILLS everyone in the room anyway. So, according to your logic, its better for EVERYONE to get killed, than to allow the possibility that there might be a stray bullet that hits one person...

Sheesh. Liberal logic. :tonofbricks:
 
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Luke2427

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12strings said:
Not at all, you are arguing against some people having guns for the protection of others in a certain situation based on the fact that an innocent person might get hurt...if that logic were valid, it should apply to all situations...as a blanket statement:

No good person should carry a gun, even though we know lots of bad people carry and use guns...because we would rather allow the bad people to kill whoever they are going to kill rather than open up the possibility that a good person might accidentally hurt or kill someone.
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You're trying to reason with a man who spurns reason.

Arguments are not going to convince this man- no matter how sound and valid.

He will cling tenaciously to nonsense no matter how clearly you have shown it to be nonsense.
 
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John 2:15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables

So Jesus--God Himself in the flesh--made a weapon and drove out the money changers. But we, who are not God, presume to know better and say "no weapons in the church."
 
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Alive in Christ said:
Gosh, I am begining to think that brother Tcasiddy might be a "couple of marbles short" ...if you get my drift. :(
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Coming from you, who has been wrong about just about everything you have posted, that's a compliment!

However, I do feel sorry for your spouse. I wonder what s/he did to deserve the likes of you.
 
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Havensdad said:
Your contention is ridiculous, because in the situation where no one has a gun, the gunman KILLS everyone in the room anyway. So, according to your logic, its better for EVERYONE to get killed, than to allow the possibility that there might be a stray bullet that hits one person...

Sheesh. Liberal logic. :tonofbricks:
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I am simply keeping scripture in context. Apparently you do not do so. Anyone can prove anything by taking scripture out of context ... and that make it false teaching ... even if it is by you.
 
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