Concerning Immature Christians

[AustinC]

You are just showing your total lack of comprehension of the English language. Try to understand this, I will never accept your deterministic version of the sovereignty of God. Your view of the sovereignty of God is flawed and you do not even comprehend that fact. You are following Calvinism not the bible, which is really sad.

But at least you admitted that your life is totally controlled just like a puppet so it really means you do not even know if what you believe is true. Since you have a flawed view of God then you can not even know if the god you are following is the true God of the bible or just a figment of your imagination. You really have nothing to base your faith on as it is not even your faith but one that your god gave you. That is the reality of your flawed Calvinistic view.

My view of God's Sovereign determinism is what the Bible teaches, which by default means that you will never accept what the Bible teaches about God's Sovereignty. You show us this when you openly reject Romans 9.

 

[Silverhair]

My view of God's Sovereign determinism is what the Bible teaches, which by default means that you will never accept what the Bible teaches about God's Sovereignty. You show us this when you openly reject Romans 9.

Sorry Austin you are looking through your Calvinist glasses again. Your deterministic sovereignty is not found in the bible Calvinists read that in because of the pagan teachings that Augustine brought into the church and Calvin carried forward. As I have told you many times do some research, it is not hard to prove that the root of your theological philosophy comes from paganism.

 

[AustinC]

Sorry Austin you are looking through your Calvinist glasses again. Your deterministic sovereignty is not found in the bible Calvinists read that in because of the pagan teachings that Augustine brought into the church and Calvin carried forward. I have told you many times do some research, it is not hard to prove that the root of your theological philosophy comes from paganism.

 

[AVL1984]

Thanks for the typical Calvinist response.

 

[AustinC]

Thanks for the typical Calvinist response.

 

[Van]

Now I think everyone on this forum knows that all who are saved are saved by the merits of Christ, not their own merit. That's cast in stone. We don't have to fret over it. Why, therefore, do you harp on people, saying things like "belief is a work, therefore you think you saved yourself!", in light of the fact we all know Christ is the Saviour, not us, and He's still the Saviour whether our understanding is pure or muddied, and every last person who is saved credits Christ with his or her salvation, not themselves?

The claim God does not choose individuals for salvation by utilizing their faith in Christ is fallacious
The claim individuals must hold the right doctrines in order for God to credit our faith as righteous faith is fallacious.

What we do know from scripture is God chooses those rich in faith who are heirs to the kingdom promised to those who love God. So a Catholic who believes errant doctrine, but loves Jesus and is deeply committed to Him could be chosen and someone who knows all the right doctrines but trusts his or her knowledge rather than Jesus might not be chosen.

That being said, we are not to tolerate false teachers and their false doctrine. We are to protect the pure gospel of Christ.

 

[AustinC]

The claim God does not choose individuals for salvation by utilizing their faith in Christ is fallacious
The claim individuals must hold the right doctrines in order for God to credit our faith as righteous faith is fallacious.

What we do know from scripture is God chooses those rich in faith who are heirs to the kingdom promised to those who love God. So a Catholic who believes errant doctrine, but loves Jesus and is deeply committed to Him could be chosen and someone who knows all the right doctrines but trusts his or her knowledge rather than Jesus might not be chosen.

That being said, we are not to tolerate false teachers and their false doctrine. We are to protect the pure gospel of Christ.

 

[Van]

The claim God does not choose individuals for salvation by utilizing their faith in Christ is fallacious
The claim individuals must hold the right doctrines in order for God to credit our faith as righteous faith is fallacious.

What we do know from scripture is God chooses those rich in faith who are heirs to the kingdom promised to those who love God. So a Catholic who believes errant doctrine, but loves Jesus and is deeply committed to Him could be chosen and someone who knows all the right doctrines but trusts his or her knowledge rather than Jesus might not be chosen.

That being said, we are not to tolerate false teachers and their false doctrine. We are to protect the pure gospel of Christ.
[Snip]

 

[AustinC]

The claim God does not choose individuals for salvation by utilizing their faith in Christ is fallacious
The claim individuals must hold the right doctrines in order for God to credit our faith as righteous faith is fallacious.

What we do know from scripture is God chooses those rich in faith who are heirs to the kingdom promised to those who love God. So a Catholic who believes errant doctrine, but loves Jesus and is deeply committed to Him could be chosen and someone who knows all the right doctrines but trusts his or her knowledge rather than Jesus might not be chosen.

That being said, we are not to tolerate false teachers and their false doctrine. We are to protect the pure gospel of Christ.


We are to protect the pure gospel of Christ with truth not innuendo.

Van, we have shown you your error. [Snip]
You butcher the Bible and then get upset when you have been shown to be wrong, not by just one person, but by many. Please stop with your teaching which no other Christian teaches.

 

[MrW]

I have said before I get confused on this site, trying to figure out what goes where, and finding posts I've already made.

I mistakenly started this thread on the Calvinism & Arminianism Debate forum, and I've little interest in that debate. I will be cautious about which forum I'm on in the future, now that I'm finding my way around.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I have said before I get confused on this site, trying to figure out what goes where, and finding posts I've already made.

I mistakenly started this thread on the Calvinism & Arminianism Debate forum, and I've little interest in that debate. I will be cautious about which forum I'm on in the future, now that I'm finding my way around.

No mistake. It was ordained.