Condemning Attitudes

[Pastor_Bob]

Originally posted by dianetavegia:
However, Pastor Bob, it is our place to point out unscriptural views or it is the same as endorsing those views.

I agree we have an obligation to stand for the truth. My point is that we still must maintain our Christlikeness even when opposing evil. When Jesus rebuked, He rebuked in love always. Why? Because God is love. Jesus never resorted to sarcasim or cynicism to make His point.

If I were to not reply when someone says it's okay to hate people with one leg because God hates people with one leg... then I would be saying I agree.

I do not think this is necessarily so. Silence is not always an acknowledgement of agreement. Ecc 3:7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak ; (KJV) A wise person will be able to discern what time to do both.

There are many factors involved in when to keep silent and when to speak. If I spoke out against everything I disagreed with on the Baptist Board, I would have several thousand posts. I do not normally get involved in a thread that is argumentative. Nothing is ever resolved in those threads. I may state my position and then back away quietly. That is in no way an admission of defeat; it is knowing when to remain silent.

The bottom line is, when you do speak, speak the truth in love.

 

[dianetavegia]

BUT... If I am involved in a discussion and some unbibilcal remark is made, I feel obligated to show scripture and correct that misstatment, lovingly but firmly. If not, I would feel that the poster would perceive me to agree. Does that make sense?

I agree about your remark about thousands of posts. I've been here months and have 700 posts. Some people have been here less than me and have 4,000 posts.

Condemnation is not up to us! BUT

Mt 18:6 -
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Mr 9:42 -
And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

Lu 17:2 -
It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

I would much rather be considered terse than allow a milk eating Christian to missunderstand what I believe scripture says on a subject.


Offense:
SAINTS SHOULD
Be without
Philippians 1:10
Be cautious of giving
Psalms 73:15; Romans 14:13; 1 Corinthians 8:9
Have a conscience void of
Acts 24:16
Cut off what causes, to themselves
Matthew 5:29,30; Mark 9:43-47
Not let their liberty occasion, to others
1 Corinthians 8:9
Use self-denial rather than occasion
Romans 14:21; 1 Corinthians 8:13
Avoid those who cause
Romans 16:17
Reprove those who cause
Exodus 32:21; 1 Samuel 2:24

MINISTERS SHOULD
Be cautious of giving
2 Corinthians 6:3
Remove that which causes
Isaiah 57:14

All things that cause, shall be gathered out of Christ’s kingdom
Matthew 13:41

Denunciation against those who cause
Matthew 18:7; Mark 9:42

Punishment for occasioning
Ezekiel 44:12; Malachi 2:8,9; Matthew 18:6,7

 

[Wisdom Seeker]

Sorry Dr. Bob...I guess I should have either minded my own business. or p.m.'d you. That way you could have dealt with it yourself. I think I was still feeling upset because of the way some of the posters who attacked you here on this thread attacked me recently somewhere else. I was acting out of a feeling of protectiveness for you, someone I admire and respect. I appologize for misspeaking.

Laurenda

Pastor Bob and Helen, I think you hit the nail on the head.


Whoso keepeth his mouth and his tongue keepeth his soul from troubles. Proud and hauty scorner is his name, who dealeth in proud wrath. Prov. 21:23-24
Cast out the scorner, and contention shall go out; yea, strife and reproach shall cease. Prov. 22:10

[ April 30, 2003, 01:05 PM: Message edited by: Wisdom Seeker ]

 

[Thankful]

I may state my position and then back away quietly. That is in no way an admission of defeat; it is knowing when to remain silent.

I agree. Good Point. Remaining silent does not always mean that one agrees.

 

[dianetavegia]

Jer 20:9 -
Then I said, "I will not make mention of Him, Nor speak anymore in His name." But His word was in my heart like a burning fire Shut up in my bones; I was weary of holding it back, And I could not.

Stating your position is speaking.... you do not have to continue making remarks but should never not defend God's word!

Dr. Bob... I have never seen an offensive post from you! I guess I just understand dry humor and 'get it' when you make a point. I may not always agree with every word you say (like altar calls) but I still highly respect you and watch for your posts!

Diane

 

[Wisdom Seeker]

Originally posted by Thankful:
Remaining silent does not always mean that one agrees.

In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin; but he that refraineth his lips is wise. Prov. 10:19

 

[Dr. Bob]

Laurenda - I appreciate the good words and know that not everyone will agree with EVERY thing I post (or the manner in which I post).

We do fall into a trap of "the bloody sword" on occasion. We fight and contend and battle for truth against error . . then we keep on swinging when friends or brothers/sisters come close.

I want to be known for my love . .
~for God first
~for His Word
~for other believers
~for the lost world

I do real well on 1,2, & 4, but #3 is a tough one. Easier to just keep flailing away with the sword . . .

 

[C.S. Murphy]

Dr. Bob that's the best post I have read lately (except for mine ) I agree 100%. Thanks
Murph