Continued - Israeli-Palestinian peace settlement.

[Revmitchell]

How many Israelis are killed by Gaza rockets? And how many Gazans are killed by Israeli terror bombs & bullets?

There are no Israeli terror bombs

 

[FollowTheWay]

No, you clearly have no clue what social justice is.

You earned your money honestly, but some guy ran up immense credit card debt and student loan debt that he cannot afford to pay off and is living in poverty as result of his debts.

Social Justice says that YOU have to pay for his decisions and you are responsible for his debts and his bills.

• You have to pay for credit cards you did not open up.
  
• You have to pay for student loans that you did not apply for (even though you paid your loans off, now you have to pay someone else's loans).
  
• You have pay mortgages for houses you don't own.
  
• You have to pay for someone else's medical procedures.

It is a redistribution of wealth. You will pay 70%-90% in taxes to pay everyone else's bills. Is that how you want to live?

Social justice doesn't help the poor. It perpetuates poverty. You refuse to look at socialist countries and see the condition they are in. You basically commit intellectual suicide because you have a false, pie-in-the-sky vision of what socialism looks like and you REFUSE to address why socialist countries don't succeed and why everyone is poor and scratching at the dirt to find something to eat. You need stop looking at socialism through the lens of your imagination and start looking at reality.

You are impossible to reason with on this topic because you do not have a intelligent grasp on what socialism and social justice are. You cannot point to ONE socialist success anywhere in the world, but you keep acting like it's a good thing.

If socialism is so great, why does everyone from socialist countries want to immigrate to the US to get away from socialism???? You cannot answer that question. No socialist can.

There has already been a redistribution of wealth in the U.S. from the middle and lower classes to the rich. That's why so many people are barely getting b y living from pay check to pay check. It was caused by Republican tax policies since Reagan (Voodoo Economics) as well as merger of large corporations which has reduced competition and established oligopolies which control prices and drive them up.

 

[Revmitchell]

There has already been a redistribution of wealth in the U.S. from the middle and lower classes to the rich. That's why so many people are barely getting b y living from pay check to pay check. It was caused by Republican tax policies since Reagan (Voodoo Economics) as well as merger of large corporations which has reduced competition and established oligopolies which control prices and drive them up.

Nothing true about this post. Please provide clear evidence of your claim.

 

[Covenanter]

All wealth is from God - we have NOTHING we have not received. The rich don't work as hard as the poor manual & factory workers - they just pay themselves more.

True socialism applies a tax on all (at appropriate rates) to provide health care, government. policing, defence, housing, care for the sick, local authority services - transport & lighting. There are so many things provided that enable us all to enjoy a reasonable standard of living without impoverishing the rich or the poor.

That picture of a "capitalist" supermarket shows food grown by the labour of low paid agricultural workers. I could add, on land taken from previous owners using force operated by the state-paid cavalry.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Nothing true about this post. Please provide clear evidence of your claim.

I've already supported that claim several times here.

 

[GoodTidings]

There has already been a redistribution of wealth in the U.S. from the middle and lower classes to the rich. That's why so many people are barely getting b y living from pay check to pay check. It was caused by Republican tax policies since Reagan (Voodoo Economics) as well as merger of large corporations which has reduced competition and established oligopolies which control prices and drive them up.

That is not a redistribution of wealth. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Revmitchell]

I've already supported that claim several times here.

So you got nothing

 

[GoodTidings]

All wealth is from God - we have NOTHING we have not received. The rich don't work as hard as the poor manual & factory workers - they just pay themselves more.

True socialism applies a tax on all (at appropriate rates) to provide health care, government. policing, defence, housing, care for the sick, local authority services - transport & lighting. There are so many things provided that enable us all to enjoy a reasonable standard of living without impoverishing the rich or the poor.

That picture of a "capitalist" supermarket shows food grown by the labour of low paid agricultural workers. I could add, on land taken from previous owners using force operated by the state-paid cavalry.

In America, you work for an agreed upon wage. If you are making low wages, it is because you entered into an agreement with the employer to work for what he offered.

No one is forced to work for low wages. If you don't like what you're getting paid, find a better job. That's capitalism, that's freedom and that's why we dont' want socialism in America.

 

[Covenanter]

Add education, emergency services, hospitals, etc - all services we all need, paid for out of general taxes that do not impoverish the tax payers, but do support those in need - including the rich when they get ill, have accidents or even when they get old.

 

[GoodTidings]

Add education, emergency services, hospitals, etc - all services we all need, paid for out of general taxes that do not impoverish the tax payers, but do support those in need - including the rich when they get ill, have accidents or even when they get old.

Paying for public services with taxes is not socialism.

 

[GoodTidings]

How many Israelis are killed by Gaza rockets? And how many Gazans are killed by Israeli terror bombs & bullets?

The reason that Palestinians die because of Israel's weapons, is because Hamas and Fatah use civilians as human shields. The terrorists always make sure they are surrounded by civilians when they attack Israel so that Israel responses will harm civilians. They also force noncombatants to stand near military targets so that when Israel hits those targets, civilians will be killed.

Israel doesn't target the innocent. But the Palestinians use their innocents as cannon fodder. And the ones who survive are denies medical treatment so that they will die, ramping up the fatality rates in order to gain propaganda points with gullible people like you who don't know what is actually going on.

The Palestinians even kill their own people who refuse to be human shields. So the real culprits are the Palestinian terrorists, not Israel.

 

[church mouse guy]

How many Israelis are killed by Gaza rockets? And how many Gazans are killed by Israeli terror bombs & bullets?

Why are the Palestinians attacking? No one cares about Gaza one way or another. Israel has built a wall around it. Was it okay for Germany to fire rockets at the UK?

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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