Conundrum Baptist Doctrine vs Satan

[Yeshua1]

You accept then individual responsibility? not shared guilt. This is what the verses are saying. Each is responsible for their own sin

We are all sinners in Adam, as his Fall got us all, but we are also accountability for own actions done here...
The Zech passage refers to being charged with a crime, not with being a sinner by being in Adam...

 

[loDebar]

The passages are about all have sinned. Look at
Eze 18:2
What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge?
Eze 18:3¶
As I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel.

In Adam we are physically die. We are already spiritually dead.

 

[Yeshua1]

The passages are about all have sinned. Look at
Eze 18:2
What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge?
Eze 18:3¶
As I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel.

In Adam we are physically die. We are already spiritually dead.

The passage relates NOT to salvation and sin, but to how God punished evil doers on a case by case...

 

[loDebar]

They were all guilty of their own iniquity, as vs 1, 2 show..the sons were not guilty of the fathers iniquities.. so We are not guilty of Adams. Sin is not through the physical lines. It is spiritual. Your body does not sin,

 

[Aaron]

I'm not convinced that an age of accountability exists because Adam's sin is sufficient to damn everyone. And I wonder if abortion is judgement where God visits the sins of the fathers unto the third and fourth generation of those who hate him.

So, let's not resist abortion, seeing we might be resisting God?

 

[1689Dave]

So, let's not resist abortion, seeing we might be resisting God?

That's a good point. But if abortion is God's judgement we will not thwart it by voting against it. But we will thwart it by reaching the wicked for Christ.

 

[Aaron]

That's a good point.

Are you the member formerly known as Crabtownboy?

 

[Yeshua1]

That's a good point. But if abortion is God's judgement we will not thwart it by voting against it. But we will thwart it by reaching the wicked for Christ.

So the Same God who strictly forbid baby sacrifice among israel would have it now going on in America?

 

[1689Dave]

So the Same God who strictly forbid baby sacrifice among israel would have it now going on in America?

“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;” (Exodus 20:5) (KJV 1900)

I'm not saying abortion is God's judgement but it sure looks like it.
“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” (John 3:36) (KJV 1900)

 

[1689Dave]

Are you the member formerly known as Crabtownboy?

No, but if he is that interesting to you, I'd like to read his posts.

 

[Yeshua1]

“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;” (Exodus 20:5) (KJV 1900)

I'm not saying abortion is God's judgement but it sure looks like it.
“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” (John 3:36) (KJV 1900)

Except that passage just refers to individual sins and judgement!

 

[1689Dave]

Except that passage just refers to individual sins and judgement!

All of which God visits on future generations.

 

[Yeshua1]

All of which God visits on future generations.

Not to those who knew Him though!

 

[1689Dave]

Not to those who knew Him though!

No, he blesses us for generations to come.

 

[Yeshua1]

No, he blesses us for generations to come.

Who would be running abortion mills, God or satan?

 

[1689Dave]

Who would be running abortion mills, God or satan?

Satan. God created him and keeps him alive for his own purposes. Consider Job and other OT examples.

 

[Aaron]

No, but if he is that interesting to you, I'd like to read his posts.

I think you would find a kindred spirit.

 

[1689Dave]

I think you would find a kindred spirit.

I'm sorry, but how can you judge my motives by yours or someone else's? People do many like things for different reasons. My motive for posting on this forum is to share what the Lord taught me over many years. I feel obligated to do this since he died to make it possible. And placed me in a land where "Free Speech" is insured by all (with some exceptions).

 

[TCassidy]

My motive for posting on this forum is to share what the Lord taught me over many years.

Which assumes He has not taught the rest of us over a similar or longer time.

I feel obligated to do this since he died to make it possible.

But not us?

And placed me in a land where "Free Speech" is insured by all (with some exceptions).

And now we find another subject you don't seem to understand. The 1st amendment to the US Constitution applies to government interference, not private forums, etc. "Congress shall pass no laws . . . " etc. There is no "free speech" in a private forum, any more than there is "free speech" in my living room. My house. My rules. And keep your feet off the furniture.

 

[1689Dave]

Which assumes He has not taught the rest of us over a similar your longer time.

Not at all. It assumes you do the same and we all profit from your understanding. What happens if you bury your treasure? Personally, I'm afraid of losing what he taught me if I do not share it.