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Could President Trump be IMPEACHED?

Lewis

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Gathering intelligence and spying do not equal the same thing. It doesn't prove either way that Obama was or was not spying or wire tapping Trump. It does prove that Obama's administration was doing due diligence on Trump.

Articles like that do not provide definitive proof and instead just open doors for politicly biased people to interpret things into the agenda that they wish to push.
It is pretty clear what this former Obama official is saying. Not really open to interpretation. "Due diligence" involves gathering info on your political opponents during an election? Okey doke.
 

Brent W

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It is pretty clear what this former Obama official is saying. Not really open to interpretation. "Due diligence" involves gathering info on your political opponents during an election? Okey doke.

It is not clear what they are saying. If, for instance, the Obama official had said the following words: spying or wire tap, it would be clear what they were saying. However, they did not use those terms so therefore it is left up to interpretation still on what exactly intelligence gathering means.

So, obviously, a politicly biased person like yourself will want to interpret that as the worst case scenario because it fits your political agenda. Someone like me, who doesn't wake up seething at Democrats would much prefer much more clear evidence before I throw the former President of the United States under the bus for wire tapping a political opponent.
 

InTheLight

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The Obama administration was spying on Trump, and Obama's former deputy defense said so on live TV. LINK-Yet we still have nothing.

Probably because the Trump administration did what this former Obama deputy assistant secretary of defense said they would do--compromise [read: destroy] the evidence.
 

InTheLight

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It is not clear what they are saying. If, for instance, the Obama official had said the following words: spying or wire tap, it would be clear what they were saying. However, they did not use those terms so therefore it is left up to interpretation still on what exactly intelligence gathering means.

Yup. Former Obama official (deputy assistant secretary of defense) said she and her colleagues were collecting intelligence on the Trump campaign's ties to Russians. No mention of how this intelligence was gathered.

But when Hannity gets a hold of this story, suddenly she is spying, leaking intelligence and "unmasking" Americans. Then he says (ominously) Now we learn that Evelyn Farkas, a relatively low-ranking Obama administration official, knew about all this surveillance. She couldn’t have been alone.

Well, no, she probably wasn't alone, since Obama issued a directive that intelligence agencies share information.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/...tude-to-share-intercepted-communications.html
 

carpro

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More than happy to. I believe that Trump could be impeached depending on the outcome of the investigation, which you claim to be false yet have no more information that any of the rest of us have, unless of course you can predict the future.

So, yes, Trump could be impeached, depending on the outcome of a completed investigation.

Now, anymore questions or would you rather deflect more?

I've already stated Trump could be impeached. Try to keep up.

It was you that brought up Jeff Sessions. Got any more deflections?
 

carpro

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So we are on the same page now in that he can be impeached in regards to the Russian investigation pending whatever outcome it is. Good deal.

No. But he can be impeached. The rest is pure speculation on your part.
 

Happy

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How many nations that don't exist anymore will be included?
We have no guarantee that the US will exist as we know it.

Actually, "nation" would be more to the point of the "people" that make up a "country".

"Many" countries have changed borders and jurisdiction, per their established "nation". Sometimes that determines a change in what people are called, sometimes it doesn't.

I don't see the US becoming Vacant. However I do see the US changing rapidly from what was once unfathomable to pridefully acceptable.
 

Brent W

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No. But he can be impeached. The rest is pure speculation on your part.

Then we are not on the same page because if he is found guilty of charges being levied against him in regards to the Russian investigation, he can and should be impeached. We will have to wait until the investigation is over, however, to determine if he has done something that warrants impeachment. Unless, of course, you can see into the future or have details that rest of the American public do not.

Either way, I am not going to continue to go around in circles with you. You have made it clear that he can be impeached but you appear to have information we do not have that proves the accusations are false.
 

MennoSota

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Then we are not on the same page because if he is found guilty of charges being levied against him in regards to the Russian investigation, he can and should be impeached. We will have to wait until the investigation is over, however, to determine if he has done something that warrants impeachment. Unless, of course, you can see into the future or have details that rest of the American public do not.

Either way, I am not going to continue to go around in circles with you. You have made it clear that he can be impeached but you appear to have information we do not have that proves the accusations are false.
Nothing to see. Other countries work our elections via funding propaganda videos and no one blinks an eye. Progressives are just pouting because their own corrupt dragon lady didn't win the election and now their government handouts are drying up after 8 years of breast feeding from the government teet.
 

Brent W

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Nothing to see. Other countries work our elections via funding propaganda videos and no one blinks an eye. Progressives are just pouting because their own corrupt dragon lady didn't win the election and now their government handouts are drying up after 8 years of breast feeding from the government teet.

There is a very clear distinction with other countries producing propaganda videos and possible collusion between a politician with a foreign Government to win an election. However, I assume that your heavy political bias will also disregard that so I will just leave my words here for others to read and make their own judgement. No sense talking to someone who already has it in their head that one party is far superior than the other.

Especially someone who can call Clinton a dragon lady while depending someone like Donald Trump, whose morals disappeared long ago.
 

Happy

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Could President Trump be IMPEACHED?

(USC) United States Constitution Article 2,Section 4
"The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors."

The "on" impeachment and "for" conviction are the qualifiers to remove a President from Office.
 

carpro

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Either way, I am not going to continue to go around in circles with you. You have made it clear that he can be impeached but you appear to have information we do not have that proves the accusations are false.

It's a politically motivated "investigation". Nothing will come of it. It it was going to, it already would have. It's been going on since before the election.

But he can still be impeached over nothing or something. In today's climate in DC, the facts and the truth don't matter.

I have just as much information that the charges are false as you have that they are true. But we have plenty of evidence that the "investigation" is politically motivated and real crimes by members of the Obama administration are being ignored.
 

Brent W

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It's a politically motivated "investigation". Nothing will come of it. It it was going to, it already would have. It's been going on since before the election.

It is an investigation that congressmen have called for from both sides. This is not disputable.

In today's climate in DC, the facts and the truth don't matter.

Trump has made this clear.

I have just as much information that the charges are false as you have that they are true. But we have plenty of evidence that the "investigation" is politically motivated and real crimes by members of the Obama administration are being ignored.

I am not claiming they are true. I am waiting for the results of the investigation. Not once did I make the statement that Trump is guilty or that the charges against him were true. You have, however, made the statement that they are false, which is impossible to know and is driven purely by your political bias. The same political bias you rail against when the other side does it.
 

MennoSota

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There is a very clear distinction with other countries producing propaganda videos and possible collusion between a politician with a foreign Government to win an election. However, I assume that your heavy political bias will also disregard that so I will just leave my words here for others to read and make their own judgement. No sense talking to someone who already has it in their head that one party is far superior than the other.

Especially someone who can call Clinton a dragon lady while depending someone like Donald Trump, whose morals disappeared long ago.
I think Trump wears depends.

No, Brent, I take no solace in a political party who nominated a hedonist and narcissist to become President. This fall we had the choice between picking Hildabeast or the Oompa Loompa. It speaks volumes as to the direction God is allowing this nation to go. We are in a post-Christian society and much of Christianity is an empty shell. I compare us to the days of Israel and Judah just before they were sent into exile.
 

Brent W

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I think Trump wears depends.

No, Brent, I take no solace in a political party who nominated a hedonist and narcissist to become President. This fall we had the choice between picking Hildabeast or the Oompa Loompa. It speaks volumes as to the direction God is allowing this nation to go. We are in a post-Christian society and much of Christianity is an empty shell. I compare us to the days of Israel and Judah just before they were sent into exile.

I managed to vote for President and voted for neither of them. Until people stop voting out of fear of the other party, this will continue to happen every four years.
 
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