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Covid Hysteria

Reynolds

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Emphasis is on antibodies to track longevity, from what I understand.

But antibody tests are not standardized. There are tests, but the problem is people compare numbers from various tests to make up whatever they desire.

From the LabCorp test your doctor uses:

  • Physicians can order SARS-CoV-2 Semi-Quantitative Total Antibody 164090
    • Values generated with this assay cannot be used to determine whether or not an individual has developed protective immunity against infection and cannot be directly compared to other assays until a universal standard is established for assay calibration.
Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) Antibody Test for Providers | Labcorp
I had sinus infection and saw another doc who is partner with my regular Doc. He told me to get the the Moderna vax in 60 days. He said he couldn't recommend the Pfizer vax. That in his opinion it is a failed vax. He said he took it and has had Covid several times.
 

JonC

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I had sinus infection and saw another doc who is partner with my regular Doc. He told me to get the the Moderna vax in 60 days. He said he couldn't recommend the Pfizer vax. That in his opinion it is a failed vax. He said he took it and has had Covid several times.
The Moderna has proven more effective. And that your doctor had covid several times is a strong statement against natural immunity.

I did read that the Pfizer may be better for younger people. Can't remember why.
 

JonC

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What if there is no ‘covid 19’? It has yet to be isolated. What we do know is many people are suffering & expiring from the ‘cure’.


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The data, as of October 3, 2020, speaks for itself:

DISTRIBUTION
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HERE COMES A VERY TROUBLING PART:
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In the US the covid-19 virus (sars-cov-2) was isolated in January 2020. It had already been isolated from non-US samples.

Where on earth did you even get the idea the virus had not been isolated? :confused:
 

Wingman68

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In the US the covid-19 virus (sars-cov-2) was isolated in January 2020. It had already been isolated from non-US samples.

Where on earth did you even get the idea the virus had not been isolated? :confused:
Links or stop blabbing.
 

Wingman68

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The Virus Is Fictitious.” CDC Sued by 7 Universities’ Scientists for Huge Fraud
june 4, 2021 by canadaman2020


By Enza Ferreri

In a previous post we have reported how Dr. Stefano Scoglio, Ph.D., B.Sc., Italian 2018 Candidate Nobel Prize in Medicine came to the conclusion that it’s not sure this virus exists, and that he’s one of the increasing number of medical prestigious professionals who question the reality of the claimed “isolation” of the SARS-Cov-2 virus and the validity of the RT-PCR test supposedly able to detect it.

NO TRACE OF THIS VIRUS AT ALL. FOUND ONLY TYPE A AND B INFLUENZA VIRUSES
Now even more evidence emerges casting serious doubts on the existence of the novel coronavirus which is reputed to cause the alleged new disease Covid-19.

Dr. Derek Knauss, clinical scientist and immunologist-virologist at a Southern California laboratory, says he and his colleagues from 7 universities are suing the CDC for massive fraud.

Dr. Derek Knauss says:

I have a PhD in virology and immunology.

I’m a clinical lab scientist and have tested 1,500 “supposed” positive COVID-19 samples collected here in Southern California.

When my lab team and I subjected the 1,500 supposedly positive Covid-19 samples to Koch’s postulates and put them under an SEM (electron microscope), we found NO Covid in all 1,500 samples. We found that all 1,500 samples were primarily Influenza A, and some Influenza B, but no cases of Covid. We did not use the [unreliable] PCR test.

When we sent the rest of the samples to Stanford, Cornell, and a couple of the labs at the University of California, they came up with the same result: NO COVID. They found Influenza A and B. Then we all asked the CDC for viable samples of Covid. The CDC said they can’t give them, because they don’t have those samples.

So we came to the hard conclusion through all our research and lab work that Covid-19 was imaginary and fictitious. The flu was only called ‘Covid,’ and most of the 225,000 deaths were from co-morbidities such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, pulmonary emphysema, etc.. They got the flu which further weakened their immune systems, and they died.

I still need to find one viable sample with Covid-19 to work with. We who conducted the lab test with these 1,500 samples at the 7 universities are now suing the CDC for Covid-19 fraud. The CDC still has not sent us a viable, isolated and purified sample of Covid-19. If they can’t or won’t, then I say there is no Covid-19. It’s fictional.

The four research papers describing the genome extracts of the Covid-19 virus never managed to isolate and purify the samples. All four papers describe only small pieces of RNA that are only 37 to 40 base pairs long. That is NOT a VIRUS. A viral genome normally has 30,000 to 40,000 base pairs.

Now that Covid-19 is supposedly so bad everywhere, how come not one lab in the world has completely isolated and purified this virus? That’s because they never really found the virus. All they ever discovered were small pieces of RNA that were not identified as the virus anyway. So what we’re dealing with is just another flu strain, just like every year. Covid-19 does not exist and is fictitious. [Emphasis added]

I want to underline all this because it’s something of momentous and shocking importance. The results of these lab tests were staggering.

Not even one single allegedly positive test was found to have SARS-CoV-2, the virus believed to be the cause of the new disease Covid-19 . There was no trace of this virus at all. Scientists found only type A and B influenza viruses.

Even the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), when requested to provide virus samples, admitted not to have any availability of them.

At that point, Dr. Knauss and his scientist colleagues concluded that the virus does not exist because no one has been able to bring incontrovertible evidence of its existence. They took the flu, called it “Covid-19” and created the most enormous scam in history. The public believed it and still believes it.

This could help explain why the flu has practically disappeared from the statistics collected since the beginning of the “Covid pandemic”. See the following WHO data on numbers of global influenza cases per week, from the first week of 2020.
 

Reynolds

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The Moderna has proven more effective. And that your doctor had covid several times is a strong statement against natural immunity.

I did read that the Pfizer may be better for younger people. Can't remember why.
I am honestly confused. He said from what he has seen, if you get Covid first and then get vaxed post recovery, you are "bullet proof". If you get vaxed and then get Covid, you continue to keep getting Covid. He said in hindsight,he wished he had not taken vax until after he got Covid the first time.
 

JonC

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I am honestly confused. He said from what he has seen, if you get Covid first and then get vaxed post recovery, you are "bullet proof". If you get vaxed and then get Covid, you continue to keep getting Covid. He said in hindsight,he wished he had not taken vax until after he got Covid the first time.
I have thought about vaccine + covid. Maybe the antibodies from the infection and the t-cell thing from the vaccine?

I just don't want the covid treatment. I have friends who had a fairly easy go of it, but others who said they wouldn't wish it on their worst enemy.
 

JonC

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The Virus Is Fictitious.” CDC Sued by 7 Universities’ Scientists for Huge Fraud
june 4, 2021 by canadaman2020


By Enza Ferreri

In a previous post we have reported how Dr. Stefano Scoglio, Ph.D., B.Sc., Italian 2018 Candidate Nobel Prize in Medicine came to the conclusion that it’s not sure this virus exists, and that he’s one of the increasing number of medical prestigious professionals who question the reality of the claimed “isolation” of the SARS-Cov-2 virus and the validity of the RT-PCR test supposedly able to detect it.

NO TRACE OF THIS VIRUS AT ALL. FOUND ONLY TYPE A AND B INFLUENZA VIRUSES
Now even more evidence emerges casting serious doubts on the existence of the novel coronavirus which is reputed to cause the alleged new disease Covid-19.

Dr. Derek Knauss, clinical scientist and immunologist-virologist at a Southern California laboratory, says he and his colleagues from 7 universities are suing the CDC for massive fraud.

Dr. Derek Knauss says:

I have a PhD in virology and immunology.

I’m a clinical lab scientist and have tested 1,500 “supposed” positive COVID-19 samples collected here in Southern California.

When my lab team and I subjected the 1,500 supposedly positive Covid-19 samples to Koch’s postulates and put them under an SEM (electron microscope), we found NO Covid in all 1,500 samples. We found that all 1,500 samples were primarily Influenza A, and some Influenza B, but no cases of Covid. We did not use the [unreliable] PCR test.

When we sent the rest of the samples to Stanford, Cornell, and a couple of the labs at the University of California, they came up with the same result: NO COVID. They found Influenza A and B. Then we all asked the CDC for viable samples of Covid. The CDC said they can’t give them, because they don’t have those samples.

So we came to the hard conclusion through all our research and lab work that Covid-19 was imaginary and fictitious. The flu was only called ‘Covid,’ and most of the 225,000 deaths were from co-morbidities such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, pulmonary emphysema, etc.. They got the flu which further weakened their immune systems, and they died.

I still need to find one viable sample with Covid-19 to work with. We who conducted the lab test with these 1,500 samples at the 7 universities are now suing the CDC for Covid-19 fraud. The CDC still has not sent us a viable, isolated and purified sample of Covid-19. If they can’t or won’t, then I say there is no Covid-19. It’s fictional.

The four research papers describing the genome extracts of the Covid-19 virus never managed to isolate and purify the samples. All four papers describe only small pieces of RNA that are only 37 to 40 base pairs long. That is NOT a VIRUS. A viral genome normally has 30,000 to 40,000 base pairs.

Now that Covid-19 is supposedly so bad everywhere, how come not one lab in the world has completely isolated and purified this virus? That’s because they never really found the virus. All they ever discovered were small pieces of RNA that were not identified as the virus anyway. So what we’re dealing with is just another flu strain, just like every year. Covid-19 does not exist and is fictitious. [Emphasis added]

I want to underline all this because it’s something of momentous and shocking importance. The results of these lab tests were staggering.

Not even one single allegedly positive test was found to have SARS-CoV-2, the virus believed to be the cause of the new disease Covid-19 . There was no trace of this virus at all. Scientists found only type A and B influenza viruses.

Even the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), when requested to provide virus samples, admitted not to have any availability of them.

At that point, Dr. Knauss and his scientist colleagues concluded that the virus does not exist because no one has been able to bring incontrovertible evidence of its existence. They took the flu, called it “Covid-19” and created the most enormous scam in history. The public believed it and still believes it.

This could help explain why the flu has practically disappeared from the statistics collected since the beginning of the “Covid pandemic”. See the following WHO data on numbers of global influenza cases per week, from the first week of 2020.
That is odd....since we know people have been tested and the virus has been isolated. And we know that the Delta varient was isolated in December. And the MU was isokated in January.

We also know that covid-19 is not the influenza virus.

It is also strange because the flu didn't disappear. Obviously distancing oneself will lower the numbers. But I am surprised a real expert like you quote believes covid-19 is the influenza virus.

But like I said....people can choose their own sources.
 

Wingman68

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That is odd....since we know people have been tested and the virus has been isolated. And we know that the Delta varient was isolated in December. And the MU was isokated in January.

We also know that covid-19 is not the influenza virus.

It is also strange because the flu didn't disappear. Obviously distancing oneself will lower the numbers. But I am surprised a real expert like you quote believes covid-19 is the influenza virus.

But like I said....people can choose their own sources.
Lame. You ignore & just blab. It’s what you do. That’s why you have the time to post nonstop here, all you need is you.
 

JonC

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Lame. You ignore & just blab. It’s what you do. That’s why you have the time to post nonstop here, all you need is you.
:Laugh:Laugh

You just claimed that there is no covid virus, that it has not been isolated, and that it is just the flu.

And you think my objection to that conspiracy theory is nonsense? :Whistling
 

Reynolds

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I have thought about vaccine + covid. Maybe the antibodies from the infection and the t-cell thing from the vaccine?

I just don't want the covid treatment. I have friends who had a fairly easy go of it, but others who said they wouldn't wish it on their worst enemy.
Yep. Ole Doc said "The only thing I know about Covid is that everything I know about it today will be wrong next month."
 

Wingman68

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:Laugh:Laugh

You just claimed that there is no covid virus, that it has not been isolated, and that it is just the flu.

And you think my objection to that conspiracy theory is nonsense? :Whistling

Yes. You make statements without producing the goods, always. You demean with your ‘where on earth do you get the idea’, when claiming it is isolated, without proof. Now you demean by calling it a conspiracy theory. Here’s a suggestion…..don’t read my posts or respond to me. I would do it to you, but I can’t.
 

JonC

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Yes. You make statements without producing the goods, always. You demean with your ‘where on earth do you get the idea’, when claiming it is isolated, without proof. Now you demean by calling it a conspiracy theory. Here’s a suggestion…..don’t read my posts or respond to me. I would do it to you, but I can’t.
Sorry, but some things need to be demanded.

It was not that long ago you were telling us about how the natural antibodies covid survivors have were sufficient against covid and now you ate saying there is no such thing as the covid virus.
 

JonC

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Yes. You make statements without producing the goods, always. You demean with your ‘where on earth do you get the idea’, when claiming it is isolated, without proof. Now you demean by calling it a conspiracy theory. Here’s a suggestion…..don’t read my posts or respond to me. I would do it to you, but I can’t.
Sorry, but some things deserve demeaning.

It was not that long ago you were telling us about how the natural antibodies covid survivors have were sufficient against covid and now you are saying there is no such thing as the covid virus.

And nobody says you have to read my posts. You are an adult....right?

There are some people I just ignore. Not by removing their posts but just by not caring what they have to say.
 

Wingman68

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Sorry, but some things deserve demeaning.

It was not that long ago you were telling us about how the natural antibodies covid survivors have were sufficient against covid and now you are saying there is no such thing as the covid virus.

And nobody says you have to read my posts. You are an adult....right?

There are some people I just ignore. Not by removing their posts but just by not caring what they have to say.

More with the demeaning, but I’m sure it’s deserved to say things like, ‘you are an adult……right?’ You should be better than that…….you are a moderator…..right?
 

Reynolds

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I heard Surgeon General on Dr Oz last week. He said they are beginning to study natural immunity and vaccine enhanced natural immunity. He admitted they had not studied it enough.
I don't watch Dr Oz, but it was on at my mom's house and I rewinded and watched it because it seemed interesting. Dr Oz was pretty rough in S.G. for what appears to be over emphasis on vaccine and under emphasis on treatment. Dr Oz asked him if they feared that effective treatments would hamper the vaccine effort. S.G. said "I am glad you asked that question.....". All us trained in interrogation know that really means I am mad that you asked that.
 
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