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Covid tyranny in Australia

NewMusic

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There are numerous things that commentary could be given about, and as a follower of Christ who reads the bible, it would have better wisdom. That said, the people in the USA who are followers of Christ, will need to heed this word of God in the near future:

Rev 18:4 Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues;

Christians should read the entire chapter and understand the context about the land they live in. Here's more of it, and there's no other country in the world this could apply to. Read the details.


Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality (do I really need to give a lesson on this? Thank you, Hollywood, among others.), and the kings of the earth have committed immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich from the power of her luxurious living."
Rev 18:4 Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues;
Rev 18:5 for her sins are heaped high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.
Rev 18:6 Pay her back as she herself has paid back others, and repay her double for her deeds; mix a double portion for her in the cup she mixed.
Rev 18:7 As she glorified herself and lived in luxury, so give her a like measure of torment and mourning, since in her heart she says, 'I sit as a queen, I am no widow, and mourning I shall never see.' (i.e. attitude, "We're the greatest country in the world! Everybody wants to be like us!")
Rev 18:8 For this reason her plagues will come in a single day, death and mourning and famine, and she will be burned up with fire; for mighty is the Lord God who has judged her."
Rev 18:9 And the kings of the earth, who committed sexual immorality and lived in luxury with her, will weep and wail over her when they see the smoke of her burning.
Rev 18:10 They will stand far off, in fear of her torment, and say, "Alas! Alas! You great city, you mighty city, Babylon! For in a single hour your judgment has come."
Rev 18:11 And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn for her, since no one buys their cargo anymore,
Rev 18:12 cargo of gold, silver, jewels, pearls, fine linen, purple cloth, silk, scarlet cloth, all kinds of scented wood, all kinds of articles of ivory, all kinds of articles of costly wood, bronze, iron and marble,
Rev 18:13 cinnamon, spice, incense, myrrh, frankincense, wine, oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots (i.e. cars), and slaves (America's rampant sex slavery), that is, human souls. (America is the greatest debtor, importer, nation in the history of the world. Nothing compares.)
Rev 18:14 "The fruit for which your soul longed has gone from you, and all your delicacies and your splendors are lost to you, never to be found again!"
Rev 18:15 The merchants of these wares, who gained wealth from her, will stand far off, in fear of her torment, weeping and mourning aloud,
Rev 18:16 "Alas, alas, for the great city that was clothed in fine linen, in purple and scarlet, adorned with gold, with jewels, and with pearls!
Rev 18:17 For in a single hour all this wealth has been laid waste." And all shipmasters and seafaring men, sailors and all whose trade is on the sea, stood far off
Rev 18:18 and cried out as they saw the smoke of her burning, "What city was like the great city?"
Rev 18:19 And they threw dust on their heads as they wept and mourned, crying out, "Alas, alas, for the great city where all who had ships at sea grew rich by her wealth! For in a single hour she has been laid waste.


Great city is defined in the chapter previous, also identified by 2 additional titles, The Whore, and Mystery Babylon.

Great city is not a town, but a country.

Bible history lesson: Babylon was a city along the Euphrates river in Iraq. Whenever the bible in the Old Testament refers to Babylon, it's almost always referring to the empire, not the town.

Likewise, the great city in the End Days, is not NYC or something like that, but rather a nation. Our empire, which until recently, we had over 900 military bases around the globe.

Now go back and read about the merchants weeping because nobody buys there cargo anymore. This is not a city that has been desecrated, but a nation.

Read Revelation 17 to get the wider context for identification.

What's ironic is that in the 1980's various Arab countries used to call America "the great Satan" because of how immoral we were/are and the filth that came out of Hollywood that affected countries everywhere. The promotion of homosexuality, and other criminal behavior. Even China is now affected by America's immorality and there is an uprising of homosexual pressure on their culture. The women in the Asian countries used to be subservient to their husbands, but thanks to America's feminist movement, which affected countries everywhere, that too has affected the race.
 
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Scott Downey

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Draconian lock downs in Australia as the prior video posted is true. In that video was stated this is due to the Labor party (compare to our democrat party) which runs state of Victora. Residents cant leave home,
'It just feels surreal': Military posted at checkpoints as Australian state extends COVID-19 lockdown (nbcnews.com)

So while much of Australia was enjoying some semblance of normality after pubs, restaurants and other businesses reopened in May, the residents of Victoria can leave their homes only for food, caregiving and essential work. Exercise is permitted once a day within 3 miles of home.

Those breaching the rules face fines of $1,000 or more, and repeat offenders can be taken to court and fined almost $15,000. Companies can be fined more than $70,000 for breaking the rules.
 

Scott Downey

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'Forced to vaccinate' | Australia's new rules around mandatory vaccination | Sunrise 7NEWS - The Global Herald
The COVID vaccine is now mandatory for the first time, for people who work in the aged care sector. 250,000 workers will need to receive the first dose by mid-September or risk losing their job. National Cabinet has introduced an $11 million program to incentivise aged care staff. It can be used when a person needs time off to get the jab, or if they suffer side effects.

The Prime Minister has made vaccines mandatory for quarantine workers and those involved in the transport of people in quarantine. But there’s no grant money for them – he says that’s up to the states.

About This Source - 7NEWS Australia

Seven News is the television news service of the Seven Network and, as of 2016, the highest-rating in Australia. The news service draws upon overseas channels for select international coverage. The network’s Director of News and Current Affairs is Craig McPherson.
 

Scott Downey

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Do WA's emergency health powers allow forcible testing, vaccination and removal of underwear of children? Here are the facts - ABC News

Verdict, 'partially true, but not the whole story.'

While the legislation gives emergency officers considerable powers, it also provides safeguards, including that the powers can only be used on the authorization of the Chief Health Officer.

Can a person be directed to be tested and vaccinated?
Section 184, which refers to quarantine and medical procedures, states that an emergency officer may direct a person "to undergo medical observation, medical examination or medical treatment or to be vaccinated".

WA's Chief Health Officer Dr Robertson said in an email to Fact Check: "These powers may be used to compel a person to undergo a medical examination, including a test for COVID-19, or to be vaccinated if there was a vaccine available."

He said that directions under section 184 had been issued to require people to undergo testing for COVID-19.

Laura Tomlinson, a spokeswoman for the Western Australia Department of Health told Fact Check: "There is no vaccine or immunisation programme for COVID available in WA schools or anywhere else."

Dr Eburn said during a public health emergency the Chief Health Officer could authorise an emergency officer to direct any person, including anti-vaxxers, to be vaccinated.
 

Scott Downey

Well-Known Member
You do realize you posted a thread a few days ago from a source claiming the virus is a bloodline conspiracy, the moon landing is fake, and the earth is flat....right?
The thread is about Covid Tyranny only, why do you always redirect to something else, mostly to make light of what is being discussed.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
The thread is about Covid Tyranny only, why do you always redirect to something else, mostly to make light of what is being discussed.
Because that thread was also about covid and it shows the sources you you find valid.

I also like to see counter arguments to arguments.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Do WA's emergency health powers allow forcible testing, vaccination and removal of underwear of children? Here are the facts - ABC News

Verdict, 'partially true, but not the whole story.'

While the legislation gives emergency officers considerable powers, it also provides safeguards, including that the powers can only be used on the authorization of the Chief Health Officer.

Can a person be directed to be tested and vaccinated?
Section 184, which refers to quarantine and medical procedures, states that an emergency officer may direct a person "to undergo medical observation, medical examination or medical treatment or to be vaccinated".

WA's Chief Health Officer Dr Robertson said in an email to Fact Check: "These powers may be used to compel a person to undergo a medical examination, including a test for COVID-19, or to be vaccinated if there was a vaccine available."

He said that directions under section 184 had been issued to require people to undergo testing for COVID-19.

Laura Tomlinson, a spokeswoman for the Western Australia Department of Health told Fact Check: "There is no vaccine or immunisation programme for COVID available in WA schools or anywhere else."

Dr Eburn said during a public health emergency the Chief Health Officer could authorise an emergency officer to direct any person, including anti-vaxxers, to be vaccinated.
From the article - the OP is false:

The verdict
This claim is not the full story.

There is no legislation known as the COVID-19 Emergency Powers Act in WA.

The Public Health Act 2016, however, does set out powers that allow an authorised emergency officer to direct a person, including a child, to be tested and vaccinated under a public health state of emergency.


Pre-COVID act.
 

Scott Downey

Well-Known Member
New NSW Covid lockdown restrictions: update to Sydney, regional NSW and Canberra, ACT coronavirus rules explained | New South Wales | The Guardian

All of New South Wales will be under stay-at-home restrictions from 5pm Saturday 14 August.

The Greater Sydney lockdown has been extended to at least the end of September.



For rural and regional communities the lockdown will last until at least 28 August.

Curfews and exercise time limits have also been introduced in the 12 Sydney LGAs of highest concern.
From the article - the OP is false:

The verdict
This claim is not the full story.

There is no legislation known as the COVID-19 Emergency Powers Act in WA.

The Public Health Act 2016, however, does set out powers that allow an authorised emergency officer to direct a person, including a child, to be tested and vaccinated under a public health state of emergency.


Pre-COVID act.
Well, JonC, so far I have been finding the message in the originally posted video is correct, except for reports of 3 kids dying in a forced vaccination in a stadium....which is not verified.
But see, you dont acknowledge anything else, you just focus on 1 single aspect of a story on a web page, then conflate that to say the whole story is false. That video in that original web page goes into great detail about the covid tyranny which I am seeing is true.
Then you start talking about the 'Flat Earth', adding that in as proof all of it is made up.
From your response I cant imagine you even watched that video.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
New NSW Covid lockdown restrictions: update to Sydney, regional NSW and Canberra, ACT coronavirus rules explained | New South Wales | The Guardian

All of New South Wales will be under stay-at-home restrictions from 5pm Saturday 14 August.

The Greater Sydney lockdown has been extended to at least the end of September.



For rural and regional communities the lockdown will last until at least 28 August.

Curfews and exercise time limits have also been introduced in the 12 Sydney LGAs of highest concern.

Well, JonC, so far I have been finding the message in the originally posted video is correct, except for reports of 3 kids dying in a forced vaccination in a stadium....which is not verified.
But see, you dont acknowledge anything else, you just focus on 1 single aspect of a story on a web page, then conflate that to say the whole story is false. That video in that original web page goes into great detail about the covid tyranny which I am seeing is true.
Then you start talking about the 'Flat Earth', adding that in as proof all of it is made up.
From your response I cant imagine you even watched that video.
You posted that children were being forced to take a vaccine. That is false.

What I am saying is you have a history of looking at conspiracy websites to find articles that support your feelings.

You have posted from "flat earth", "moon landing faked", and "covid a bloodline conspiracy" websites as your sources.

It is a matter of discernment.

The article stating the OP is false was an article YOU posted as evidence to the contrary. You seem to have taken that act (amended prior to covid) as evidence.

You have not vetted or considered your sources enough.

I personally do not care what other countries do, and I am not overly concerned about what the US does.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
The bottom line is you posted an article with pictures of a protest with the false information that it was children being taken to a stadium to be vaccinated against their will.

I agree that restrictions are in place. But that does not make the OP less a lie.

This stuff falls in line with your flat earth conspiracies.
 

Scott Downey

Well-Known Member
The bottom line is you posted an article with pictures of a protest with the false information that it was children being taken to a stadium to be vaccinated against their will.

I agree that restrictions are in place. But that does not make the OP less a lie.

This stuff falls in line with your flat earth conspiracies.
More inappropriate conflation bringing in flat earth comments, do you even understand what conflation is?
"the merging of two or more sets of information, texts, ideas, etc. into one."
You do this all the time. There is no relationship of flat earth to Covid tyranny in Australia.

And I notice that anything contrary to the vaccines being good, you quickly denounce as false, and also then conflate all of it and anything associated with it as all false, regardless of who says it. You're very much in total agreement with Fauci,, the current administration, CDC, and their talking points.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
More inappropriate conflation bringing in flat earth comments, do you even understand what conflation is?
"the merging of two or more sets of information, texts, ideas, etc. into one."
You do this all the time. There is no relationship of flat earth to Covid tyranny in Australia.

And I notice that anything contrary to the vaccines being good, you quickly denounce as false, and also then conflate all of it and anything associated with it as all false, regardless of who says it. You're very much in total agreement with Fauci,, the current administration, CDC, and their talking points.
It is legitimate to question your sources.

You have a history to believe anything that coincides with your feelings.

This should not make you a liar.

I never said I agree with Fauci. I have no idea what the guy says.

I have been open with facts - like tge 14 year old boy dying from a reaction the night after receiving a vaccination, about the listed side-effects of the vaccination - including death, and like the longevity of the vaccine being in question. I have pointed out the fact that none of the vaccines avaliable are 100% and they carry risk.

I have also listed the possible consequences of the virus - stating that people need to weigh the benefits-risks of the vaccine against the risks associated with the virus and make an informed and individual decision about their health. Healthy people in their 30's have died with the virus. The virus has killed children.

I have not sourced flat-earth sites for support.....that was you.

I do not care who gets a vaccine and who refrains.

The problem is not the virus or the vaccine but misinformation and conspiracy theories you often rely on.

I do not understand why you do not want people to consider actual facts and cases about the virus and vaccine.

Why on earth would you use a flat-earth, moon landing hoax, blood line conspiracy site for your data???

Since you have, why should anything else you post not be dismissed as conspiracy theory??
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Texas has seen nearly 9,000 COVID-19 deaths since February. All but 43 were unvaccinated people.

Nurse whose unvaccinated grandmother died of COVID-19: ‘People have turned a medical issue into too much politics’

Though young and healthy, unvaccinated father dies of COVID

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article249019270.html

Fitness enthusiast, 42, who rejected vaccine, dies of Covid

Hospitalizations and deaths of younger people soar due to COVID-19, PAHO Director reports - PAHO/WHO | Pan American Health Organization

'Wrecked our lives': Families of 3 young adults who died from COVID-19 share heartbreaking stories

See the Data on Breakthrough Covid Hospitalizations and Deaths by State
Almost All U.S. COVID-19 Deaths Now in the Unvaccinated

The majority of COVID-19 hospitalizations in the U.K. are among unvaccinated people

6 unvaccinated members of Florida church die of COVID-19 in less than 2 weeks

Unvaccinated couple die of COVID-19 hours apart, leaving behind 2 teens

Almost All U.S. COVID-19 Deaths Now in the Unvaccinated
‘I’m sorry, but it’s too late’: Alabama doctor tells unvaccinated, dying COVID patients

99% of COVID deaths are now of unvaccinated people, experts say

Unvaccinated people are more likely to die of COVID-19 because they are more vulnerable to infection and severe disease

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Newsroom/Articles/ID/2879/New-data-reveals-COVID-19-impact-on-unvaccinated

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/best-states/alabama/articles/2021-08-21/nobody-should-go-through-this-delta-variant-hits-young?context=amp

Staggering COVID-19 Statistic: 98% to 99% of Americans Dying are Unvaccinated - AU/UGA Medical Partnership

Phil Valentine, radio host who was a vaccine skeptic, dies of COVID

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/interactive/2021/covid-rates-unvaccinated-people/

99.5% Of People Killed By Covid In Last 6 Months Were Unvaccinated, Data Suggests

https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article252622713.html

Unvaccinated deaths overwhelm health workers in Covid hot zones
 

nonaeroterraqueous

Active Member
It really doesn't take a whole lot of effort to dump a page of links promoting vaccines, when the alternative view is heavily censored.


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JonC

Moderator
Moderator
It really doesn't take a whole lot of effort to dump a page of links promoting vaccines, when the alternative view is heavily censored.


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Those (for the most part) are not promoting vaccines. You are confusing facts that do not support your feelings as promoting either side.

People have, like I posted, also died from reactions to the vaccine. While we cannot assume they would have survived the virus, their deaths are no less tragic.

If this were a thread proclaiming the vaccine completely safe then I would have posted the story of the 14 year old who was discovered dead the morning after being vaccinated.

But this is an anti-vax thread. People need to consider the whole story.

And no, it was not as easy as you might think.
 
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