If you steal to do it, you haven't fed anyone. Someone else has.
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Cracker Barrel Fires 73-Year-Old Veteran Who Gave Food To 'Needy' Man
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If you steal to do it, you haven't fed anyone. Someone else has.
In your opinion, is the corporate policy moral or not? Why do you feel the way you do?
I agree that Cracker Barrel should review this policy; but as I mentioned in a previous post, it may not be up to Cracker Barrel. Their insurance may be driving such policy(ies).
HOWEVER, whether we agree that the policy is immoral or not is irrelevant. The company made a decision on how to treat such situations; if you believe taking their property to feed others is justifiable, then I'll meet you at the Cracker Barrel of your choice and we'll raid their kitchen. I mean, why stop at just a muffin? Let's get serious about feeding others. While we're at it, let's hit up McDonald's, Olive Garden, and all the others.
In my opinion there is nothing moral, Christlike, or even admirable in your position. It is a coward's position. You are not feeding anyone. You are forcing someone else feed them using deception and thievery. I think that way because it is the correct way to think.
Btw, has anyone even bothered to look up CB's charitable donations ?
Do you mean from his own pocket, or from OPM???:smilewinkgrin:
Gotta be specific here!:tongue3:
1. Obama has been in power for 6 years and this issue of homelessness is now being debated? Usually the debate on homelessness occurs when the GOP is in power only.
2. A human being should be tough minded and tender hearted.
3. Catering to the whim of every street person is foolish. One cannot afford to be an enabler. Giving money to street people over 90% of the time means that alcohol and/or drugs will be purchased.
4. Democrats are notoriously parsimonious and uncharitable.
5. The religious left has no successful soup kitchens and homeless shelters because they do not have the Holy Ghost power to deal with addicts.
6. American cities have either resuce missions or other agencies to deal with the homeless and their needs.
7. Here in my county, my senior center offers food to seniors from a food pantry.
8. I have 35 years experience in dealing with street people and have been educated by numerous addiction counselors and law enforcement officers. Everyone in the field agrees that the best thing for everyone is to send the homeless person to a shelter for soup, soap, and salvation.
9. Cracker Barrel did right in firing that employee. With his record, he will probably never get another job.
10. The federal government has stopped preaching in most rescue missions and so therefore many alcoholics have perished because it was illegal to give them the gospel.
2. A human being should be tough minded and tender hearted.
3. Catering to the whim of every street person is foolish. One cannot afford to be an enabler. Giving money to street people over 90% of the time means that alcohol and/or drugs will be purchased.
4. Democrats are notoriously parsimonious and uncharitable.
5. The religious left has no successful soup kitchens and homeless shelters because they do not have the Holy Ghost power to deal with addicts.
6. American cities have either resuce missions or other agencies to deal with the homeless and their needs.
7. Here in my county, my senior center offers food to seniors from a food pantry.
8. I have 35 years experience in dealing with street people and have been educated by numerous addiction counselors and law enforcement officers. Everyone in the field agrees that the best thing for everyone is to send the homeless person to a shelter for soup, soap, and salvation.
9. Cracker Barrel did right in firing that employee. With his record, he will probably never get another job.
10. The federal government has stopped preaching in most rescue missions and so therefore many alcoholics have perished because it was illegal to give them the gospel.
I meant Cracker Barrel"s charitable donations. Has C.T.Boy looked them up, or has he simply deemed them immoral ?
Zaac
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Do as you feel the Holy Spirit leads. At some point, helping the next guy can't always be somebody else's responsibility.
I agree. You should give of yourself. Not use someone else's property to do your charity. That's not giving. It's not charity. Giving away someone else's stuff is most certainly making it someone else's responsibility
The man's responsibility was to not steal from his employer.
If you really cared about the homeless, you would try to get the federal government to allow the gospel to be preached to the homeless. As I pointed out many alcoholics have perished because the federal government would not allow the gospel to be preached.
The Christian church has rescue missions and soup kitchens. In Obama's America there is provision everywhere. Obama has had six years to eliminate homelessness.
A person who is an addict or who is mentally ill does not need to be begging. Unless the beggar was an alcoholic, he probably was overweight, like most Americans.
Christianity teaches that man does not live by bread alone. Christianity also teaches that there is a balm in Gilead. However, to read the Baptist Board, you would think that there was no balm in Gilead.
If you really cared about the homeless, you would try to get the federal government to allow the gospel to be preached to the homeless. As I pointed out many alcoholics have perished because the federal government would not allow the gospel to be preached.
The Christian church has rescue missions and soup kitchens. In Obama's America there is provision everywhere. Obama has had six years to eliminate homelessness.
A person who is an addict or who is mentally ill does not need to be begging. Unless the beggar was an alcoholic, he probably was overweight, like most Americans.
Christianity teaches that man does not live by bread alone. Christianity also teaches that there is a balm in Gilead. However, to read the Baptist Board, you would think that there was no balm in Gilead.
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The passage from Matthew that was quoted earlier does NOT apply because it was preaching individual responsibility.
The more applicable passage, which I posted a few pages back, is Eph 6:5.
But for some reason, those that quote the Matthew passage don't want to address the Ephesians passage.
The more applicable passage, which I posted a few pages back, is Eph 6:5.
But for some reason, those that quote the Matthew passage don't want to address the Ephesians passage.
Zaac
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How can the government stop you from preaching the Gospel to the homeless? Do you mean when they stay in shelters, etc?
We have a program where we preach to the homeless every week.
God has not tasked the government to take care of the poor. He commanded the church to.
But Scripture also says to love your neighbor as you love yourself. I know if I were on the street and hungry, I would hope that a kind hearted somebody would be willing to give me a bite to eat.
Zaac
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We're talking about individual responsibility as it's individuals who decide to act like Christ or not.
I quoted it and I haven't ignored anything. :laugh:
My mother once told me that to always remember Hebrews 13:2 when you meet people you don't know.
Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it. Heb. 13:2
NaasPreacher (C4K)
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Exactly - it is not a company's responsibility, it is mine and I don't do it by stealing something in order to do it. I give on my own.
Giving away stolen goods is not biblical giving.
NaasPreacher (C4K)
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Why would you ask such an offensive question? Any true believer would do so.
The scriptures are pretty clear that when we give it is to be so private that, as Jesus puts it, even one hand should not know what the other is giving so I am not going to comment on my giving practices.
But I won't steal to do it.
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I am sorry you were offended. I am not at all sure that is the way a homeless person would be greeted by some on the BB. I have been offended often to a greater degree and absolutely nothing has been done in a large majority of the cases that were bad enough I reported them.
If you look back through my posts you will see it is the corporate policy that I say is immoral. I have not said the man was justified in stealing. But I do believe the policy was and is wrong where a person is allowed to go hungry.
As I said, if my father-in-law could provide a provide a full meal running a small family business surely a corporation could afford a few biscuits or a corn muffin.
Again, it is the corporate policy that I see as immoral and thus, yes the man did technically steal the muffin he gave away ... but he has a better heart than the corporate officials who made the policy IMHO.
Do you feel the corporate policy is a moral policy?
I have and it is not much. But that is another topic. This thread is about their immoral corporate policy that can cost a person their job for giving away a what probably cost them less than 5 cents per item.
But it ignores the real truth of the point of this thread: did the vet do wrong?
Wasn't necessarily referring to you.
Don't fall into the trap that CTB baited with the opening post and subsequent responses: misdirection and straw man arguments overlooking what the vet did, which was give away something that wasn't his to give away.
To presume that others don't show hospitality is to ignore the real facts of the story.
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