Cracker Barrel Fires 73-Year-Old Veteran Who Gave Food To 'Needy' Man

[InTheLight]

Really? Fifteen pages of "discussion" on this subject. It's all succinctly covered by C4K in three sentences.

There is a simple solution - it is not charity when you give away somebody else's stuff - that's theft.

It is not an immoral rule to tell restaurant employees that they cannot give away food. It is a logical and sensible rule.

 

[Zaac]

Lot's of talk about stealing in this thread. I wonder how many of us have stolen from God and tried to justify it because we "really" needed something or that car note just had to be paid?

Shall the vet's actions be considered in the same way as we consider our own.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Lot's of talk about stealing in this thread. I wonder how many of us have stolen from God and tried to justify it because we "really" needed something or that car note just had to be paid?

Shall the vet's actions be considered in the same way as we consider our own.

I ask everyone else, can one get more "holier than thou" than this post?

 

[Revmitchell]

I ask everyone else, can one get more "holier than thou" than this post?

Honestly it could be just reaching. He is searching for his justification and can only come up with things like that. He sets his own morality and then looks to find justification.

 

[Zaac]

I ask everyone else, can one get more "holier than thou" than this post?

What you're really asking is "how dare he point out the truth of our hypocrisy" when in truth we've all at some point done what the vet did?

Always hard-nosed when it comes to everyone else's sin but we don't want to hear it about our own.

 

[Zaac]

Honestly it could be just reacing. He is searching for his justification and can only come up with things like that. He sets his own morality and then looks to find justification.

You're seriously reaching. I've already agreed that it's stealing. God desires our obedience over our sacrifice.

But I also recognize that everyone on this board is guilty of at some point having done the very same thing to God that the vet did to CB. So get your compadre to go back and examine his own holier than thou attitude.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

What you're really asking is "how dare he point out the truth of our hypocrisy" when in truth we've all at some point done what the vet did?



Always hard-nosed when it comes to everyone else's sin but we don't want to hear it about our own.

Why would you presume that anyone who is against theft has 'stolen' from God?

 

[Zaac]

Why would you presume that anyone who is against theft has 'stolen' from God?

Why would you presume they haven't? I know that the average Baptist doesn't tithe or give at all. And I also know that the average Baptist does not tithe or give regularly or has made an excuse about why I can't tithe this week.

It just is what it is and I know that self examination will show all in this thread that at one point, we've been just as guilty of stealing from God because we felt our situation warranted it as we believe the vet was guilty of stealing from CB because he no doubt felt the situation warranted it.

Hopefully each of us as well as the vet repented and are looking to do things in a way that honors Christ.:1_grouphug:

 

[Crabtownboy]

Why would you presume they haven't? I know that the average Baptist doesn't tithe or give at all. And I also know that the average Baptist does not tithe or give regularly or has made an excuse about why I can't tithe this week.'

Good point. I have read that the average SBC gives a bit over 2% as their offering. To me that is stealing from God. Now before we have a lot of whining and howling about not being able to give. Let me say, again, that my spouse and I have always given at least a tithe and we were extremely poor when we were first married.

It just is what it is and I know that self examination will show all in this thread that at one point, we've been just as guilty of stealing from God because we felt our situation warranted it as we believe the vet was guilty of stealing from CB because he no doubt felt the situation warranted it.

Hopefully each of us as well as the vet repented and are looking to do things in a way that honors Christ.:1_grouphug:

About 50 years ago I heard an evangelist say, "If you want to find out just who is a Christian in America pass a law saying that all Christians must pay 80% of their income to the government as a tax. If they declare they are not Christian there is no such tax. Churches would be almost empty"

Christians in Communist countries had to make decisions similar to this. Their tax rate might not have been higher but they were not allowed to go to college or to obtain good jobs. An indirect tax you might say.

I have pondered that thought often throughout the years ... and I believe he is right.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

I didn't see anyone here claiming sinless perfection or acting as judge. We have been discussing a particular incident and the fallacy of trying to defend this man's sin as being God honouring and the right of a corporation to fire an employee who break policy.

 

[Revmitchell]

Good point. I have read that the average SBC gives a bit over 2% as their offering.

That is an interesting claim seeing as how there is no reporting or record keeping on that. Even if it were true, and it is doubtful, some people do not old to a tithe as a matter of doctrine.

Of course when one needs to justify a difficult position then one starts to point fingers at other people rather than stand on their own position strongly.

 

[Crabtownboy]

That is an interesting claim seeing as how there is no reporting or record keeping on that. Even if it were true, and it is doubtful, some people do not old to a tithe as a matter of doctrine.

Of course when one needs to justify a difficult position then one starts to point fingers at other people rather than stand on their own position strongly.

I am curious Rev., in your opinion what percentage giving would you consider little enough to be stealing from God?

 

[Revmitchell]

I am curious Rev., in your opinion what percentage giving would you consider little enough to be stealing from God?

off topic.

 

[Crabtownboy]

off topic.

Rev talk for "I do not want to answer". You are good at asking questions, but really very poor at answering them.

The topic is stealing. Can a person steal from God by not giving an offering? Simple question, should be easy to answer.

 

[Zaac]

I didn't see anyone here claiming sinless perfection or acting as judge. We have been discussing a particular incident and the fallacy of trying to defend this man's sin as being God honouring and the right of a corporation to fire an employee who break policy.

Then you obviously also didn't see the number of people here trying to act like they couldn't believe the vet would dare think it's okay to steal from someone else for a good cause. :laugh:

I'm just saying that it's how we respond to folks...how we treat PEOPLE... that makes people not want to have anything to do with Christians or our brand of Christianity.

Anybody being truthful can read this thread and see the air of incredulousness being expressed by many that someone could possibly think it's better to steal from someone if it meets the need of someone else.

But that seems to be what goes on in the church. It's always "I can't believe they did that" or "how could they do that"?

We ignore that we've probably done the same thing ( and the HOLY SPIRIT will remind us either now or later) or are just as capable of doing the same thing.

When we're always so hardlined and firm about everything without exhibiting any compassion, grace or mercy, it can become very unattractive. And I know this isn't what the thread is about, but in this thread like so many is the underlying current that some of us just aren't very loving people.

REMEMBER THE CROSS.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

What you're really asking is "how dare he point out the truth of our hypocrisy" when in truth we've all at some point done what the vet did?

If "we" did this, then "we" were wrong.

Always hard-nosed when it comes to everyone else's sin but we don't want to hear it about our own.

I'm guessing yer saying that to a mirror ?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Please don't feed the commie.

Yup. If you support confiscation of private property for the greater good, then you are indeed a commie.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

The topic is stealing. Can a person steal from God by not giving an offering? Simple question, should be easy to answer.

Yes. But what does this have to do with the topic ?

 

[Revmitchell]

Rev talk for "I do not want to answer". You are good at asking questions, but really very poor at answering them.

The topic is stealing. Can a person steal from God by not giving an offering? Simple question, should be easy to answer.

No that is REv talk for "I do not want to derail the thread". And the "topic' is not stealing in general. It has a very specific context.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

The Holy Spirit will not lead you to use someone else's property to do your giving. It's that simple.

If it is not of God, it is of the Father of lies.