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[Reformed1689]

Tell him you come up with your sermons and sermon titles WHEN The Lord lays them on your heart.

Funny thing is the Sermon Title is usually the last thing I do.

 

[Reynolds]

Funny thing is the Sermon Title is usually the last thing I do.

I never did title my sermons. Wouldn't have done any good because after point 1 I usually went off notes and ended up somewhere totally different than intended. I credit that to adult ADHD.

 

[Reformed1689]

I never did title my sermons. Wouldn't have done any good because after point 1 I usually went off notes and ended up somewhere totally different than intended. I credit that to adult ADHD.

I actually read mine from a manuscript so about 70% of my sermon is pre-written 30% is in the moment. But I never forget a main point

 

[Reynolds]

I actually read mine from a manuscript so about 70% of my sermon is pre-written 30% is in the moment. But I never forget a main point

I didn't forget, I just got on something else and never made it back.

 

[Marooncat79]

If you preach expositorially through books of the Bible, it would make your life sooooo much easier

 

[Marooncat79]

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One pastor I knew in the NJ/PA convention had no problem at all in choosing text or topic, since the church *required* that his Sunday morning sermon be on the *same* text as in the adult SS quarterly!

Nothing like letting Nashville direct the choice of your sermon....

I am only amazed that he acquiesced to such a demand.

As a life long SBCer, I can honestly say that I have never heard of this actually happening.

I would tell anyone to get out of our Churches bidniz

 

[Ziggy]

As a life long SBCer, I can honestly say that I have never heard of this actually happening.

I would tell anyone to get out of our Churches bidniz

Oh, I can guarantee this happened in the SBC NJ/PA convention (probably some 40 years ago now), since I was one of the possible candidates and was told they wanted to continue what the previous (founding) pastor had been doing.

They didn't seem to understand or appreciate my objection, nor my intended verse-by-verse expository form of preaching, so we mutually agreed to end further discussion and go our separate ways.

 

[Benjamin]

 

[Timothia]

At my church, the former pastor's wife (aka pianist!) chose the music weeks in advance. When we were without a pastor, the organist took that job over, and continued in the same fashion. Now that we have a new pastor, they have continued the same way. Sometimes, it's just amazing how the hymns fit the message, other times, it's just a blessing to sing that particular hymn, and yet other times the Pastor will call out a different hymn as he feels led. (Fortunately we have both a flexible pianist and organist!)

 

[Salty]

If you preach expositorially through books of the Bible, it would make your life sooooo much easier

When the Lord tells me to do so, I will


You see, I am NOT worried about the Easy way -
I am concerned as to what this congregation needs!

 

[Marooncat79]

All scripture is inspired.

 

[Marooncat79]

And profitable

 

[1689Dave]

I am currently the interim pastor of a church (over 6 month snow)

The music director wants the title of my message and the message text by Monday morning for the following
week. ( for Sun, July 14, the info was to be in by Monday, Jul 8)

Well, I work a bi-vo on Mon and Tues 1 pm to 10 pm - but the last couple of weeks I have been working overtime, and that has been wearing very much on my physical being. Could I do this on Sunday afternoon - maybe - but I just use Sun as time to wind down.

In addition - trying to get everything competed on Mon am - IMHO is unreasonable - as I do not think it is proper to be rushed in coming up with a message title as well as the text I would be using.
Here is the interesting part - the music director told me that the message title is not enough to choose songs for the service. She stated it is important to know the text, so she can properly choose songs.

Currently the bulletin is published on Wed pm- we only have a few people in the church - and people are doing multiple jobs.

I would like to get to the point as to where I will be a few weeks in advance for the subjects I will be teaching.

I have just started Sat AM visitation - and am thinking about finishing up the bulletin myself on Sat am.

So, do you think I am being unreasonable by not providing the message title and text by Mon AM.
If you need to "Sock it to me" so be it.

I would put my health first unless I could show from scripture a good reason for sacrificing it. I would tell the music director, not a NT office, to do what she wants and not place any further burden on you. What if the Lord moves you to change the subject at the last minute?

 

[GoodTidings]

I am currently the interim pastor of a church (over 6 month snow)

The music director wants the title of my message and the message text by Monday morning for the following
week. ( for Sun, July 14, the info was to be in by Monday, Jul 8)

Well, I work a bi-vo on Mon and Tues 1 pm to 10 pm - but the last couple of weeks I have been working overtime, and that has been wearing very much on my physical being. Could I do this on Sunday afternoon - maybe - but I just use Sun as time to wind down.

In addition - trying to get everything competed on Mon am - IMHO is unreasonable - as I do not think it is proper to be rushed in coming up with a message title as well as the text I would be using.
Here is the interesting part - the music director told me that the message title is not enough to choose songs for the service. She stated it is important to know the text, so she can properly choose songs.

Currently the bulletin is published on Wed pm- we only have a few people in the church - and people are doing multiple jobs.

I would like to get to the point as to where I will be a few weeks in advance for the subjects I will be teaching.

I have just started Sat AM visitation - and am thinking about finishing up the bulletin myself on Sat am.

So, do you think I am being unreasonable by not providing the message title and text by Mon AM.
If you need to "Sock it to me" so be it.

You are not being unreasonable at all. Many pastors I know spend the first part of the week in prayer over what they are going to be led to preach and don't have sermons prepared weeks in advance and would not know on Monday what the sermon is going to be. And in some cases, they have a sermon ready to go by Saturday and the Lord lays something else on their heart to say.

Tell the music leader to just let the Lord lead in what the songs will be and that you will let the Lord tell you what to preach.

 

[GoodTidings]

One pastor I knew in the NJ/PA convention had no problem at all in choosing text or topic, since the church *required* that his Sunday morning sermon be on the *same* text as in the adult SS quarterly!

Nothing like letting Nashville direct the choice of your sermon....

I am only amazed that he acquiesced to such a demand.

Then you have the "high church" denominations that use the Lectionary to decide what their sermons text will be.

 

[Salty]

I would put my health first unless I could show from scripture a good reason for sacrificing it. I would tell the music director, not a NT office, to do what she wants and not place any further burden on you. What if the Lord moves you to change the subject at the last minute?

This is an American Baptist church and as such we are an independent Baptist church and we will decide what positions are an office or not.
The only thing we will not do is to do something contrary to Scripture.

 

[robycop3]

I am currently the interim pastor of a church (over 6 month snow)

The music director wants the title of my message and the message text by Monday morning for the following
week. ( for Sun, July 14, the info was to be in by Monday, Jul 8)

Well, I work a bi-vo on Mon and Tues 1 pm to 10 pm - but the last couple of weeks I have been working overtime, and that has been wearing very much on my physical being. Could I do this on Sunday afternoon - maybe - but I just use Sun as time to wind down.

In addition - trying to get everything competed on Mon am - IMHO is unreasonable - as I do not think it is proper to be rushed in coming up with a message title as well as the text I would be using.
Here is the interesting part - the music director told me that the message title is not enough to choose songs for the service. She stated it is important to know the text, so she can properly choose songs.

Currently the bulletin is published on Wed pm- we only have a few people in the church - and people are doing multiple jobs.

I would like to get to the point as to where I will be a few weeks in advance for the subjects I will be teaching.

I have just started Sat AM visitation - and am thinking about finishing up the bulletin myself on Sat am.

So, do you think I am being unreasonable by not providing the message title and text by Mon AM.
If you need to "Sock it to me" so be it.

My pastor often doesn't complete his Sunday sermon outline til the Saturday eve. before he delivers it next AM. He may choose a theme or titleas early as Sunday afternoon, but he likes to read not just the Scripture pertinent to that theme, but others surrounding it.

His FT job is HS principal, so he has plentya time right now, but he still does it the same, he told me. He says, once he settles on a theme, new ideas come to him all week. as well as often additional Scriptures.

You must do things in a manner best for YOU to be your most-effective, as the Holy Spirit gives you ideas. Trying to conform to someone else's schedule often doesn't work. Everyone is different, & the Holy Spirit works with INDIVIDUALS, not a mass.

 

[SovereignGrace]

I am currently the interim pastor of a church (over 6 month snow)

The music director wants the title of my message and the message text by Monday morning for the following
week. ( for Sun, July 14, the info was to be in by Monday, Jul 8)

Well, I work a bi-vo on Mon and Tues 1 pm to 10 pm - but the last couple of weeks I have been working overtime, and that has been wearing very much on my physical being. Could I do this on Sunday afternoon - maybe - but I just use Sun as time to wind down.

In addition - trying to get everything competed on Mon am - IMHO is unreasonable - as I do not think it is proper to be rushed in coming up with a message title as well as the text I would be using.
Here is the interesting part - the music director told me that the message title is not enough to choose songs for the service. She stated it is important to know the text, so she can properly choose songs.

Currently the bulletin is published on Wed pm- we only have a few people in the church - and people are doing multiple jobs.

I would like to get to the point as to where I will be a few weeks in advance for the subjects I will be teaching.

I have just started Sat AM visitation - and am thinking about finishing up the bulletin myself on Sat am.

So, do you think I am being unreasonable by not providing the message title and text by Mon AM.
If you need to "Sock it to me" so be it.

Have you ever thought of preaching through a book in the bible, or at least a few chapters? That would make it easier to communicate with your MD.

 

[robycop3]

I try to hear sermons by different pastors as well as my own cuz I believe the Holy Spirit uploads different "nuggets" of intel to each believer or preacher. Thus, I hope to get an ever-growing overview of worship.

 

[1689Dave]

I try to hear sermons by different pastors as well as my own cuz I believe the Holy Spirit uploads different "nuggets" of intel to each believer or preacher. Thus, I hope to get an ever-growing overview of worship.

This is how I learned what I know.