Dale Ratzlaff - Seventh-Day Adventist Kryptonite

[thatbrian]

Former SDA pastor of 13 years speak about his experiences in the cult and his journey of escape.

He addresses: Three Adventist Doctrines that Compromise the Gospel

Please engage with one, or all three, points covered in the video.

 

[BobRyan]

Its hard to express my enthusiasm for ignoring video-babble instead of having a discussion about actual Bible teaching or going to official sources to get their actual view.

 

[thatbrian]

Former SDA pastor of 13 years speak about his experiences in the cult and his journey of escape.

He addresses: Three Adventist Doctrines that Compromise the Gospel

Please engage with one, or all three, points covered in the video.

How even one person could place his faith in Ellen G White's insanity is unimaginable to me, but the fact that 25 million do, is not proof that Ellen White was a prophet, but that Satan blinds the minds of men.

To see this 4th generation SDA cult member who was a pastor, as well, be brought to faith in Christ, demonstrates God's sovereignty in election very well.

What a great testimony and great video.

 

[thatbrian]

No takers? No one to correct this former SDA pastor?

 

[BobRyan]

No takers? No one to correct this former SDA pastor?

What factual statements did he even make??

you have only offered emotional arguments... did you want to make an actual point??

 

[thatbrian]

I guess my title was accurate. He is Kryptonite to the SDA. Maybe I'm a prophet!

 

[BobRyan]

I guess my title was accurate. He is Kryptonite to the SDA. Maybe I'm a prophet!

Actually I was just thinking that if you had a point by now ... you would have made it.

Not even remotely but when I want to debate with Ratslaff I will contact him or let him contact me... I prefer the person-to-person format not the silly video-to-person nonsense.

I don't know of anyone on this board that "debates videos"

More "common sense" less "nonsense" I always say

 

[thatbrian]

Actually I was just thinking that if you had a point by now ... you would have made it.

Not even remotely but when I want to debate with Ratslaff I will contact him or let him contact me... I prefer the person-to-person format not the silly video-to-person nonsense.

I don't know of anyone on this board that "debates videos"

More "common sense" less "nonsense" I always say

I would run in fear too, (if I were you) so no shame in that. Be well.

If you decide to hang around: The OP is what it is. Either respond to it, go away, or start your own thread. You are under no obligation to post here, but if you do, be on topic, or be reported (again).

 

[BobRyan]

I would run in fear too

and of course you have free will.. you are welcomed to do that.

but as I said - nobody comes here to "debate videos" --- if you can't watch your own videos and come up with an actual point that holds water after watching them ... why should I try and help you do it?? Surely your own videos are 'interesting to you" if to no one else.

Just stating the obvious here.

 

[thatbrian]

and of course you have free will.. you are welcomed to do that.

but as I said - nobody comes here to "debate videos" --- if you can't watch your own videos and come up with an actual point that holds water after watching them ... why should I try and help you do it?? Surely your own videos are 'interesting to you" if to no one else.

Just stating the obvious here.

I thought as much.

 

[BobRyan]

thatbrian said: ↑
I would run in fear too

and of course you have free will.. you are welcomed to do that.

but as I said - nobody comes here to "debate videos" --- if you can't watch your own videos and come up with an actual point that holds water after watching them ... why should I try and help you do it?? Surely your own videos are 'interesting to you" if to no one else.

Just stating the obvious here.

I thought as much.

not often we get that level of agreement

 

[thatbrian]

not often we get that level of agreement

That's like cheating at solitaire, Bob. . .We know it's not really satisfying, and we starting to see you for what you are.

 

[BobRyan]

thatbrian said: ↑
I would run in fear too

and of course you have free will.. you are welcomed to do that.

but as I said - nobody comes here to "debate videos" --- if you can't watch your own videos and come up with an actual point that holds water after watching them ... why should I try and help you do it?? Surely your own videos are 'interesting to you" if to no one else.

Just stating the obvious here.

I thought as much.

not often we get that level of agreement

That's like cheating at solitaire, Bob. . .

wouldn't want to do that -

 

[thatbrian]

not often we get that level of agreement



wouldn't want to do that -

Rather than deal with the facts you act like a child. Children think that when they cover their eyes they become invisible, and just like them, you think that twisting my words, when they are available for all to see, that no one sees your cowardice in avoiding the OP and foolish games.

 

[BobRyan]

Rather than deal with the facts you act like a child. Children think that when they cover their eyes they become invisible, and just like them, you think that twisting my words, when they are available for all to see, that no one sees your cowardice in avoiding the OP and foolish games.

Your practice of twisting words and making wild claims has been exposed in thread after thread so far. I think we both know this is true.

Your argument is that no one should present your own words in any light which you did not fully intend -- no matter that they are all in the form of a tirade or vitriol against others and that you cannot be dragged kicking and screaming into an actual look at what the Bible says on a given topic. And that all amounts to "foolish games"

Were we simply "not supposed to notice"??

And there is nothing in the OP but a video that you yourself apparently don't watch... why should anyone else?

What you have been told time after time is that this board is not a place where people need to "debate videos".

 

[thatbrian]

Your practice of twisting words and making wild claims has been exposed in thread after thread so far. I think we both know this is true.

Your argument is that no one should present your own words in any light which you did not fully intend -- no matter that they are all in the form of a tirade or vitriol against others and that you cannot be dragged kicking and screaming into an actual look at what the Bible says on a given topic. And that all amounts to "foolish games"

Were we simply "not supposed to notice"??

And there is nothing in the OP but a video that you yourself apparently don't watch... why should anyone else?

What you have been told time after time is that this board is not a place where people "debate videos".

I've watch the video twice, Bob. You have done nothing but act like a 2 year old. Comment on the video or leave this thread. Do you have no honor as a man? I've asked you many times. Man up, Bob. I don't care which option you choose, but man up and choose one.

This is a discussion board, and I wish to discuss the video I posted. If you wish to discuss something else, start your own thread or comment on a thread that suits your wishes.

 

[BobRyan]

I've watch the video twice, Bob. .

Have you gotten anyone on BB to "debate videos" for you??

 

[BobRyan]

I've watch the video twice, Bob. You have done nothing but act like a 2 year old. .

I have shown in quote after quote of you -- how your wild speculations and half-snip excerpts totally failed to convey the facts -- it is not "2 year olds" that know exactly where you have hidden the actual facts and then can expose them time after time.

As we all know

 

[utilyan]

I have shown in quote after quote of you -- how your wild speculations and half-snip excerpts totally failed to convey the facts -- it is not "2 year olds" that know exactly where you have hidden the actual facts and then can expose them time after time.

As we all know

Don't sweat it Bob, He calls you coward but he puts the people who stump him on "ignore".

SDA version of God is absolutely saintly, merciful and holy, Compared to the spiritual Nazi of unsaid folks.


Bob you sure you don't want to trade your "wrong" version of Christianity for a Hitler God Nazi evil version of Christianity? lol

 

[BobRyan]

Don't sweat it Bob, He calls you coward but he puts the people who stump him on "ignore".

SDA version of God is absolutely saintly, merciful and holy, Compared to the spiritual Nazi of unsaid folks.


Bob you sure you don't want to trade your "wrong" version of Christianity for a Hitler God Nazi evil version of Christianity? lol

Interesting point Utilyan -- notice that he does not actually point to an actual example or post to prove the point of the claim?

hmm... details matter