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Date for the flood.

Discussion in 'Creation vs. Evolution' started by 37818, Nov 16, 2021.

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    Matthew 1:6, Solomon through David.
    ,Luke 3:31, Nathan through David.
     
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    Explain what you think goes on there and why it is a split.
     
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    Two of David's sons. One is Joseph's line. The other Mary's.
     
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    This way Jesus had the full authority of being King

    thur Mary ---- biological line
    thur Joseph--- Legal line (with Joseph being his stepfather)
     
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    What about 2 of Joseph's sons? Why would we care if there was more than one son and how does that destroy all timeline reliability in the bible?
     
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    The time line is not destroyed. It is not as supposed.
     
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    Says you.
     
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    Yes.
     
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    So the bible timeframes are not as supposed according to you. Let me guess, they must be very different, and line up with science dating?
     
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    True science aka knowledge always will be according to God's word. Romans 10:17-18, Psalms 19:4, Deuteronomy 8:3.
     
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    So you offer diversions that do not address your doubts about us being able to have some knowledge of when Adam lived or how old the earth is. You mentioned how the chronology timelines cannot be trusted. You offered mostly one liners that made no sense when asked to support your doubts. You also seem to cast aspersions on the authority of Scripture when you talked about how men sort of may have messed up the bible or whatever.
    If you can't offer a reasoned argument on the timeline in the bible, and support it clearly, your doubts will remain in the baseless doubting dept.
     
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    I agree.
    For he that wavereth (the one who doubts) is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. Let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. James 1:v.6-8
     
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    No. The order is not in doubt. If anyone supposes what is not in evidence, one can be wrong. Again the order of events are not at issue aka the chronology.
     
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    Are you suggesting there is evidence in the bible that the world is not about 6000 years old?
     
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    In fact, as you know, GOD is in control of history, nothing random happens

    Based in the Word of God, the source of the truth, on GOD's six Days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years (2Pet.3:v.8), so MANKIND would go through six GOD Days of 1,000 years each (a total of 6,000 years) plus a Millennium of 1,000 years rest (now a total of 7,000 years).

    According biblical Chronology, we can number our days starting in Genesis 5, as follow:
    Adam lived ….....................................................130 yrs and begat Seth
    Seth lived ………………………….......................105 yrs and begat Enosh;
    Enosh lived ..........................................................90 yrs and begat Kenan;
    Kenan lived...........................................................70 yrs and begat Mahalalel;
    Mahalalel lived .....................................................65 yrs and begat Jared;
    Jared lived .........................................................162 yrs and begat Enoch;
    Enoch lived ..........................................................65 yrs and begat Methuselah;
    Methuselah lived................................................187 yrs and begat Lamech;
    Lamech lived .....................................................182 yrs and begat Noah;
    From Noah´s birth until the Flood......................600 yrs.
    Total of years from Adam to the Flood =.........1,656 yrs.

    What prevails is the Word of GOD. I work with the Word of God. Notice that the table above is proved by the Word of GOD, it is not of human theories or human speculations. Let us study the times until our days not by human theories and speculations, but by the Word of GOD - the Word is GOD. So, see the table below:

    SIX PERIODS OF BIBLICAL TIMES ----------------- DURATION
    I - From Adam to the Flood- (Genesis 5)--------------1,656 years
    II - From the Flood to Abraham-(Genesis 11&12)-----427 years
    III - From Abraham to Exodus-(Gal.3:17)----------------430 years
    IV - From Exodus to king Saul-(1Reis 6:1-480-84)----396 years
    V - From Saul to the fall of Jerusalem ------------------.508 years
    VI - From the fall of Jerusalem to Jesus ----------------.587 years
    Thus, from Adam to the 1st coming of Jesus -------.4,004 years

    From Jesus to our days (Christian Calendar)--------.2,021 years
    Total from Adam to our days -----------------------------6,025 years

    JESUS-the Greater Light,Genesis 1:v.16-came in the FOURTH DAY or around 4,000 years after GOD has started His works of restitution of all things-Genesis 1 combined with Acts. 3:v.19-20. It still was the FOURTH DAY when JESUS said: MY FATHER WORKS HITHERTO, AND I WORK-John 5:v.17. From JESUS (FOURTH DAY) until our days, or until this current time, have already passed more TWO DAYS or 2,000 years (one Day with the Lord is as a thousand years), in fact 6 complete Days or six complete millenniums, or around 6.000 years, more precisely 6,025 years, according Christian Calendar pointing the year 2.021.

    So, we have entered in the beginning of the FIRST CENTURY of the seventh and last millennium, or seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day, or THE TURN FROM THE SIXTH TO THE SEVENTH DAY, the Millennium of Christ, the Millennium of Truth, the Millennium of Judgment, the Judgment Seat of Christ, the Millennium of Vengeance.

    The world of Devil is already Judged and Condemned, and now, in this seventh and last millennium, it will be punished with strong punishments, the CHASTISEMENTS ALREADY STARTED, there will be only and only punishments in this last Day, the Day of the Lord, King of kings and LORD of lords.

    And God Father has already entered in His rest, as He had planned in the beginning of His works, but He is not sleeping, of course, and JESUS takes over the RULE of the Universe, as JESUS said: All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Matthew 28:v.18

    JESUS is now sat on His Throne, the Judgment Seat of Christ, to Judge all nations, taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not His gospel, who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the Glory of His Power.

    Revelation 11:v.15 to 18

    15 - The kingdoms of THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever.


    18 - And the nations were (will be) angry, and thy wrath is come (GOD's wrath comes), and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that GOD should give reward unto His servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear His name, small and great; and should DESTROY them which destroy the earth. It's it.

    Revelation 2:v.25 to 29

    25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

    26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

    27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

    28 And I will give him the morning star.

    29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
     
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    We need to beg you to post it?
     
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    The thing is Jesus did not come on the fourth day of creation. Why confuse the issue? Man was not even made till the sixth day.
     
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    You do realize that Jesus was born about 4 BC
     
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