You're right but now they've suspended doing that.
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David Hogg - again
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I don't see a difference in terms of us still having our constitutional rights inside a business.
That's true. Bad illustration on my part. So is there anywhere our freedom of speech isn't allowed? Of course, this doesn't include the example of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.
So a private businesses shouldn't have the ability to restrict the carry of firearms? Now that's an opinion I wasn’t expecting from you.
I value property rights, so if a business/property owner doesn't want you to lay on their floors blocking their customers, or bake a gay wedding cake, or allow concealed carry on it's premises, then it should be the business/property owner's decision.
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Uh they stopped donations to all and any candidates. It has nothing to do with the NRA but everything to do with not wanting to be seen as taking political sides.
See my post #23 on firearms. I guess we need to discuss the question of suspending free speech in a private business.
I imagine that if you paid for theater tickets, and instead of enjoying the movie a protester spoke into a bullhorn the entire time, then you would be content. I mean, nobody had their right to free speech restricted.
Lol...yeah, right.
Expecting a logical response and/or a logical comparison from a liberal/leftist/progressive is the very epitome of Utopian dreaming!
Something akin to a squirrel asking permission to eat pecans from your tree; ain't gonna happen!
I think he would be removed as a disturbance. Why not have the guts to say what you think rather than putting words into my mouth?
So if they can be removed for creating a disturbance, why can't the people laying in Publix be removed? Why post ominous messages about how "we need to discuss the question of suspending free speech in a private business" when it's obvious that the 1st Amendment doesn't protect lots of shenanigans?
And sure, I'll say what I think. Your original position is indefensible. Businesses can and do restrict many types of behavior.
That would infer (perhaps without your intent) that the demonstrators should've been removed as a disturbance. I see little difference in hindering one's being able to hear the soundtrack at a movie and being hindered from doing one's shopping.
We don't. Read the 1st Amendment. "Congress shall make no law respecting . . .). The government is not allowed to do such things, but my home is my castle and I control what is acceptable and what is not. If you refuse to abide by my rules you will be asked to leave and if you refuse you will be arrested for criminal trespass. The same applies to all private property.
Of course. There are many businesses in Texas that have 30.06 and/or 30.07 signs on their entrances that make it a crime to enter that business carrying a concealed firearm (30.06) or openly carrying a firearm (30.07). The very foundation of our socio-economic system is private property and free enterprise. When you come into my home you agree to my rules. The same is true for my business. If you don't like my rules take your business elsewhere.
The kids should have been told to leave immediately, then, when they refused, should have been arrested, handcuffed, and taken to jail. Act like a criminal - be treated like a criminal.
So, we should be within our rights to hold hands & form a human chain outside a planned parenthood? How long would that last?! Do we have selective enforcement? Or do we really just accept the new pc norm? If you are anti gun, lgbtq, anti conservative speech at universities, antifa, blm, etc., you get special priveledge. The rest of normal America not so much. That’s the change legacy of Obama. Hoping Trump can reverse that as well.
Is it private property? Then, no. Is it public property or a public easement? Then yes provided you do not block the easement (sidewalk or roadway) and restrict the movement of others.
That would depend on whether or not you were breaking the law.
We shouldn't, but it may happen.
I don't but you are free to if you want to.
Why would you advocate that? Such rights are universal.
Do you have extra time on your hands to break down an entire post which was designed to illustrate the double standard that we seem to have with our inherent rights? Thanks for the reply, I agree with you.
Yes, I do. I am retired. I have nowhere to go and nothing to do when I get there.
Good.
That would be up to the police sand the courts. They probably could have been arrested as were previous nonviolent demonstrators.
That was the decision that had to be made by the manager or owner(s) of the store. If there was no complaint there would be no arrests which is what happened.
Freedom is a wonderful thing. Because Publix caved to the little pipsqueak, my liberty allows me to spend all my hard earned money at Winn-Dixie or Wal Mart. The fact is, Publix's prices are on the high side and I only went there because they were closest to the house.
Tripped over one. Left in the ambulance. Then sued him.