OK, so you agree that there would only be two daytimes as well as only two nighttimes with a Friday crucifixion.
What distinction, Friday is the 6th day of the week.
You're going to have to explain that one.
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Day of the Crucifixion?
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Alan Dale Gross
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Is it O.K. if the topic includes the post's title?
Day of the Crucifixion?
Probably, but that would not be because they've studied it out fully, to rationally resolve the conflicts.
My view is that Jesus was crucified on the 4th day of the week, our Wednesday, on the Passover, the Day of Preparation before the Annual High Day Sabbath, the 5th day of the week, our Thursday in this case, however, the Annual High Day Sabbath occurs on Nisan 15, regardless of what day of the week it falls on.
Nisan 14, the Passover, the Day of Preparation before the Annual High Day Sabbath, falls on our Wednesday about 1 out of every 3 years.
I believe a Wednesday crucifixion resolves all the alleged difficulties in the various verses regarding it.
That is just one point where the narrative has to rely on an awkward stretch that does not consider Jesus' words about His being in the grave being a direct fulfillment of the Prophecy in Jonah.
And Jesus didn't lie.
Just to mention it, this 'preparation' would simply be on the 6th day, our Friday, before the second of three Sabbaths that took place during the Seven Days of Unleavened Bread.
That 'preparation' would be preparing for the normal, weekly Sabbath, on our Saturday.
This graphic shows the 3 Preparation Days, Nisan 14, 16, & 20, and 3 Sabbaths, 15, 17, & 21, with the 3rd Sabbath during the Seven Days of Unleavened Bread, being a second High Day Annual Sabbath, on Nisan 21.
Then, what if it neither. We need to be in the Bible to gather our facts, don't we?
That's a great place to look, since that is where Jesus pointed that can help us understand the day He was crucified.
Much can be said about this specific scripture, as to what it means and what it doesn't, or can't, mean.
Above.
That's right, this graphic shows the Crucifixion Week and were those 2 Sabbaths fall, on Nisan 15 & 17.
This Preparation Day would have been on Nisan 14, for the Annual High Sabbath Day, on Nisan 15.
Third choice, unless that is just something you're curious about, would be to start in the Book.
And I guess I need to start a New Thread, or more than one maybe.
Sorry, the title was poorly conceived with regard to the intent of the topic. It was clarified in the first post.
That would be a good idea.
37818
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The explanation being Jewish days of a week are sundown to sundown. The Roman named days are from midnight to midnight.
So, you're saying that if the term "Friday" is used that it can only be referring to a day which begins at midnight. But, that the phrase "6th day" can refer both to a day starting at sundown or midnight? And, that if "Friday" is used that there would be 4 nighttimes involved with a "Friday" crucifixion?
37818
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No.
Friday begins at midnight.
The 6th day begins at Thursday at sundown.
The 7th day Sabbath begins Friday at sundown.
I asked if you were saying that if the term "Friday" is used that it can only be referring to a day which begins at midnight.
You reply, "No. Friday begins at midnight." So, what are you saying no to?
37818
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No.
Friday begins at midnight.
The 6th day begins at Thursday at sundown.
The 7th day Sabbath begins Friday at sundown.
I'm not sure I understood your question.
That Friday is solely the 6th day? No.
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Yes, when Sunday starts the week. However, I think in much of Europe, Monday is on their calendars as the beginning of the week.
37818
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No. Saturday at sundown begins the first day of the
Biblical week.
No? What is the name of the day that comes after Saturday?
37818
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At midnight of the 1st day of the week Saturday then becpmes Sunday.
You need to compare the prophetic theme of "the day of the LORD" from the scriptures and if you have eyes to then see some glorious truths will come to light for you and you will be able to see God's viewpoint much more clearly.
The whole day of the LORD is symbolic of the sabbath of the Lord. It is one day but it is like all Jewish days, even the first one. It begins in darkness and is turned into light the light of the morning. Jesus Christ rose from the dead while it was still dark but it was near dawn. His coming dispelled the darkness in the same way that his return from heaven to the earth will be in glorious light and will dispel the darkness of Satan and his armies.
I have personally posted much on these threads about the day of the Lord and so far I have not had the first person that I can remember to say they believe the doctrine the way the Bible lays it out, especially you.
I will just say this briefly from memory without checking my notes. I do this sometimes when I am in a hurry and if I make a small mistake it will not be on purpose and I can correct it later. I know this subject pretty well and hopefully I will be accurate.
The "day of the LORD" is mentioned with this phrase a total of 30 times, in 29 verses in scripture. It is mentioned twice in one verse. God does this with several of his doctrines for a purpose. For instance the phrase "in Christ" will be found in scripture 78 times in 77 verses. One should pay attention to these occurrences and make sure your Bible does it.
The day of the LORD is written by 12 different authors in 15 different books of the Bible, I think it is 15. Some authors wrote more that one book like Jeremiah, who wrote the book with his name and the book of Lamentations and used the phrase in both books. The unique feature of all these books is the immediate context is always in the dark and it portrays judgement and the anger and vengeance of God on faithless Israel and the world, except when it is in the context of the church of Jesus Christ. In this context there is still judgement at the same time but it is in a different place and for a different reason. This judgement in all of it's immediate contexts is in the future tense no matter what prophet addresses it. If we today speak of it we too must address it's coming in the future tense.
Now there is as much or more of the follow up context that deals with the time after the light. These contexts are characterized by the phrase and in this characterization can be good or bad and the context will tell us.
When John is on Patmos he said he was there "on the Lord's day, and received the Revelation of Jesus Christ" It is interesting that he said (after he had been called up to heaven in Re 4 1-2 these words;
Revelation 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
This is the first time his, the Lamb's, wrath is in the present tense.
S side note is that the Jews in Jesus days understood what the day of the LORD signified in their scriptures For instance when Jesus spoke this word to them they understood the time line;
Mt 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Those Jews knew what "that day" meant.
Take a look at THAT DAY, the Lord's Sabbath, the millennial day,
Isa 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;
3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice den.
9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.
14 But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west; they shall spoil them of the east together: they shall lay their hand upon Edom and Moab; and the children of Ammon shall obey them.
15 And the LORD shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall smite it in the seven streams, and make [men] go over dryshod.
16 And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria; like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt.
1 And in that day thou shalt say, O LORD, I will praise thee: though thou wast angry with me, thine anger is turned away, and thou comfortedst me.
2 Behold, God [is] my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH [is] my strength and [my] song; he also is become my salvation.
Israel is going through the same suffering that Jesus went through on crucifixion week and will be purified from her sins through the fiery judgement and be eternally righteous.
37818
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@JD73, post#54,
It means what I wrote. Not your imposition.
37818
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@JD73, post#54,
FYI, the Sabbath ended Saturday at sundown.
And Saturday at sundown is the beginning of the 1st day of the week.
It means what I wrote. Not your imposition
FYI, the Sabbath ended Saturday at sundown.
And Saturday at sundown is the beginning of the 1st day of the week.
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