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Death rate 0.5% not 3 or 4% for covid-19, WHO numbers were absurd

church mouse guy

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For some reason some people have an axe to grind regarding covid virus. My thinking is they are socialists looking at this as an opportunity for the state to gain more power and grow bigger, and strip more power from individual freedoms.

I agree 100%. Two other groups are people who own stock in companies doing business with the Chinese communist party (thanks to Nixon) and rich white Democrats who intend to buy bankrupt property for pennies on the dollar.
 

Gold Dragon

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UK, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Canada, and Australia can continue with their heavy-handed march to police states with a disarmed public and arrests for those saying Trudeau and the Chinese communists stink.

UK is definitely not ready to open up their lockdown as their active case numbers are still increasing quite rapidly.

But HK, NZ and Australia are all rightly slowly opening up their economies as their active cases are all decreasing and total case numbers are all very low and have good systems in place to manage any 2nd waves.

Canada is not quite there yet but trending in the right direction.
 
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church mouse guy

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UK is definitely not ready to open up their lockdown as their active case numbers are still increasing quite rapidly.

But HK, NZ and Australia are all rightly slowly opening up their economies as their active cases are all decreasing and total case numbers are all very low and have good systems in place to manage any 2nd waves.

Canada is not quite there yet but trending in the right direction.

That is not what I was talking about. What I am talking about is the police state nature of the UK, Canada, Hong Kong, New Zealand, and Australia, not to mention South Africa. Australians would eat dingo if their government told them to.
 

Adonia

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The people of Taiwan are really our World War II allies. They know the communists in China very well since before World War II whenever Mao started a civil war. Franklin Delano Roosevelt is responsible for letting Mao have the Chinese mainland. We spent a lot of blood and gold flying over the Himalaya Mountains and building the Burma Road to supply China against the Japanese.

Taiwan/Formosa knows that the Chinese Communist Party is just murderous gangsters and they prepared medically after Sars but Obama did not.

Taiwan is more advanced medically than we are on this point. They are our old friends.

The Kuomintang Party led by Chiang Kai Shek were no angels. During WW2 they deliberately breached some dams resulting in the deaths of over 100,000 of their own countryman to deny the valley in which they were living to the Japanese as a safe haven and I am sure there were other atrocities as well. Their political corruption was also very widespread.
 

church mouse guy

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I don't want to derail the thread into a guns debate.

Oh, you seem to want to derail it into government authority to compel a shutdown. Australians will be arrested if they don't take the mandatory vacine before going back to work. The bankers there are waiting. Australians are like cattle being herded through bovine acquiescence. You think that Americans should do whatever Trump says. That is because you do not have free speech in the commonwealth countries and you gave up your right to self defense long ago. Your government will sell you into totalitarianism.
 

church mouse guy

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The Kuomintang Party led by Chiang Kai Shek were no angels. During WW2 they deliberately breached some dams resulting in the deaths of over 100,000 of their own countryman to deny the valley in which they were living to the Japanese as a safe haven and I am sure there were other atrocities as well. Their political corruption was also very widespread.

So was Franklin Delano Roosevelt's corruption very widespread. Of course, the Chinese communists murdered a lot more. Carter did the same thing as FDR to the Shah of Iran. Kennedy did the same thing to Bautista. Liberals Democrats are weird. Roosevelt sent a ship of Jews away and locked up Japanese Americans in concentration camps. He sold out Eastern Europe to the Stalinists.

Nixon guessed wrong on China, too, and he was there when it was lost. And so did Kissinger.
 

Wingman68

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First volunteer in UK coronavirus vaccine trial has died - News Oxford

Vaccine anyone? Not to mention that all vaccines contain ‘disinfectant’, thermisol & formaldehyde. People that got the flu shot this season were more likely to die if they got covid-19. This is what the Fauxci’s of the world want us to hold out for, because the Gates crew will get even richer off that, but when you have that much money already........it’s really about control. They love it so.
 

Gold Dragon

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First volunteer in UK coronavirus vaccine trial has died - News Oxford

Vaccine anyone? Not to mention that all vaccines contain ‘disinfectant’, thermisol & formaldehyde. People that got the flu shot this season were more likely to die if they got covid-19. This is what the Fauxci’s of the world want us to hold out for, because the Gates crew will get even richer off that, but when you have that much money already........it’s really about control. They love it so.

Except she isn't dead. Unless dead people use twitter too.

First UK Coronavirus Vaccine Trial Volunteer Elisa Granato Death - Dead , Obituary. See What Happened. - Celebrities Deaths
 

Scott Downey

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First volunteer in UK coronavirus vaccine trial has died - News Oxford

Vaccine anyone? Not to mention that all vaccines contain ‘disinfectant’, thermisol & formaldehyde. People that got the flu shot this season were more likely to die if they got covid-19. This is what the Fauxci’s of the world want us to hold out for, because the Gates crew will get even richer off that, but when you have that much money already........it’s really about control. They love it so.
I am not convinced they want to heal some people, you know the 'practice' of medicine is an experiment. Not a few people are convinced to save the planet, people need to be culled, by the billions. That 'green' culture of death is demonic doctrine. Their idea is the carrying capacity of the planet is way past what is right to preserve ecology of all living things, and anything that reduces the numbers of people is good.

For me though this, something which those of the world can not believe in. The people of the world strive to create their own utopia, and it is against the LORD. Psalm 2
2 Peter 3:13-15 New King James Version (NKJV)
13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.
Be Steadfast
14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you,
 

church mouse guy

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First volunteer in UK coronavirus vaccine trial has died - News Oxford

Vaccine anyone? Not to mention that all vaccines contain ‘disinfectant’, thermisol & formaldehyde. People that got the flu shot this season were more likely to die if they got covid-19. This is what the Fauxci’s of the world want us to hold out for, because the Gates crew will get even richer off that, but when you have that much money already........it’s really about control. They love it so.

Turns out that Gates is an old-fashioned eugenicist. He is accused of using tainted vaccines on black Africans. His wife is a nominal Catholic so Gates hangs out with Francis and the globalists, greenies, and other eugenicists who are trying to help Francis swing the RCC more into globalism, climate control, population control, and the UN. Francis is an Anti-Christ. He has Soros, Bono, Sanders, Ban Ki-moon, Jeff Sachs, and Gates around all the time.
 

Wingman68

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Turns out that Gates is an old-fashioned eugenicist. He is accused of using tainted vaccines on black Africans. His wife is a nominal Catholic so Gates hangs out with Francis and the globalists, greenies, and other eugenicists who are trying to help Francis swing the RCC more into globalism, climate control, population control, and the UN. Francis is an Anti-Christ. He has Soros, Bono, Sanders, Ban Ki-moon, Jeff Sachs, and Gates around all the time.
Gates’ Globalist Vaccine Agenda: A Win-Win for Pharma and Mandatory Vaccination • Children's Health Defense
Or polio for Indian children. Does the media cover stuff like this? Oh no, not while we await the Gates vaccine to ‘save’ us all.
 

church mouse guy

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Gates’ Globalist Vaccine Agenda: A Win-Win for Pharma and Mandatory Vaccination • Children's Health Defense
Or polio for Indian children. Does the media cover stuff like this? Oh no, not while we await the Gates vaccine to ‘save’ us all.

We need a thread about how Gates has gone off the deep end with abortion, birth control for black people, vaccines, and eugenics. It is amazing that his wife, a pro-abortion Catholic, has dragged Gates into the Vatican to help finance the leftist political agenda of Francis and his moral corruption. Michael Matt of Remnant Newspaper is totally disgusted by Gates and his creepy causes. Why do rich people lust for power instead of just enjoying life?
 

Scott Downey

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We need a thread about how Gates has gone off the deep end with abortion, birth control for black people, vaccines, and eugenics. It is amazing that his wife, a pro-abortion Catholic, has dragged Gates into the Vatican to help finance the leftist political agenda of Francis and his moral corruption. Michael Matt of Remnant Newspaper is totally disgusted by Gates and his creepy causes. Why do rich people lust for power instead of just enjoying life?
The wicked can not sleep unless contemplating evil plans. And many evil people do not know they are doing evil things. Simply not believing in Christ, obeying God's command to repent is evil. Scripture mentions them as sons of disobedience. Not they are sons of goodness, they have as the father the devil and their desire is to do his will.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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We need a thread about how Gates has gone off the deep end with abortion, birth control for black people, vaccines, and eugenics. It is amazing that his wife, a pro-abortion Catholic, has dragged Gates into the Vatican to help finance the leftist political agenda of Francis and his moral corruption. Michael Matt of Remnant Newspaper is totally disgusted by Gates and his creepy causes. Why do rich people lust for power instead of just enjoying life?
I recall a Charlie Rose segment several years ago featuring the Gateses. She was the driving force behind it all with him only just starting to get involved. I recall no indication that either he or she was pro-abortion at the time. How disgustingly sad that they would choose such a path.
 

church mouse guy

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I recall a Charlie Rose segment several years ago featuring the Gateses. She was the driving force behind it all with him only just starting to get involved. I recall no indication that either he or she was pro-abortion at the time. How disgustingly sad that they would choose such a path.

It turns out that the father of Gates was head of the local Planned Parenthood. The Gates are at the Vatican a lot because Francis wants birth control in Black Africa and Gates is helping with money.
 

Scott Downey

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The more testing is done, they find the % death rates continue to fall dramatically.
https://www.realclearscience.com/ar...erd_immunity_from_the_coronavirus_111374.html
Real infection death rates in Europe is 0.37%.
Restrictive testing creates fake data., and we dont want lockdown policies based on fake news. But I bet some people do! Even some people who post on these forums...of all fakers, some are deceived. Don't fall for the fakers fake news and fake information.

These findings correspond with a case fatality rate of ~0.36% (or about four deaths in every 1,000 infected). This number is remarkably close to the case fatality rate of 0.37% reported recently from a seroprevalence study in Gangelt, Germany, and consistent with studies in Finland. It is much lower than the official case fatality rate of about 13% in the UK, Italy and France, which is well recognised to be a substantial overestimate owing to the very restrictive testing performed in most countries.
 
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