Degrees of separation

[JustChristian]

Sorry I didn't respond to this, I didn't notice it.

Yes, it is speaking of two distinct and different places, just as Outsider shows in the scripture presented. Hell itself is cast into the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire however isn't an issue till the final judgment of the Great White Throne. Hell is like a prison to hold those who are awaiting their judgment which is set in the Lake of Fire.

Hades is hell or better it is known in the Greek understanding as the abode of the dead or dead men's spirits. They are not technically two different places however Hades and Shoel are two different or distinct places though we see them translated at times as the same word - 'grave'.

Your last sentence is yours to believe however you have to reconcile that with verse which states that death and "hell" are cast into the lake of fire (another distinct and seperate place, thus 'hell' being 'cast into' it).

So do you believe that Hell is the same as the Catholic Purgatory in that it's a temporary place? Who goes to Hell? If the saved don't go to Hell where do they go? I simply take the Lake of Fire to be another name for Hell.

 

[Allan]

So do you believe that Hell is the same as the Catholic Purgatory in that it's a temporary place? Who goes to Hell? If the saved don't go to Hell where do they go? I simply take the Lake of Fire to be another name for Hell.

Do you even understand the Catholic doctrine of puratory? Cause if you claim you do then your question is proposed as a deliberate means of misrepresentation. (Catholic Purgatory is not for the condemned or damned but those who need a little more time to get righteous enough to go on into heaven).

Hell is a place 'awaiting' judgment. Not one person in Hell has yet to be judged. Just as people are placed in jail due to the evidence at hand till they stand before a Judge to determine guilt or innocence, so it is with God the righteous Judge who will judge every man according to both his works and the book of life at the Great White Throne Judgment. However since God is absolutely righteous and Holy, those in hell 'awaiting' their time of judgment as there based on His knowledge of evidence against them. They are there because they deserve to be but they are there only temporarily. Hell is more like our jails (were people wait for trial but is temporary in nature - less than one year in our courts system) and the Lake of Fire is more like our prisons (which by nature are long to life terms) and the LoF is a life sentence in eternity after the Great White Throne Judgment has been made and sentence exicuted.

If hell and the Lake of Fire were the same thing you would not have hell being cast into it. I'm just curious if you can show me one analogy anywhere in the scriptures were by a thing was cast into itself.