You haven’t even looked into the matter.
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Democrats dont want to wait till 20th, they want Trump removed forcibly now
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You haven’t even looked into the matter.
No propaganda. Truth. The Ga legislature is about to prove everything Trump said about Ga to be true.
Trump did not legally incite a riot. What he said meets no legal definition of inciting a riot. All this dog whistle nonsense is exactly that, nonsense.
Until then it is propaganda. Hopefully we will see the same in PA.
A perimeter should have been established at the Capitol with guns and night sticks poised. You can go this far but don’t cross the line. A good deter ant would have been to be allowed to fire and club. Note for the next time. I prefer 12 G with slugs and buckshot (depending on applications)
propaganda = BS. I don’t know a thing about Georgia but I do know in PA you better not demand anything from those people ... ask them nicely and don’t not be from PA. Then you have a chance of not being compound bow practice
So I saw Rudy’s “smoking gun” evidence last night in that 60 minutes interview and it got debunked rather easily. To take it a step further, Rudy played around with clipped version of the footage inside the polling center. Of course having all the footage made it pretty easy to paint the broader picture. Guy even called Rudy a liar.
They also played the audio from the phone call from Trump to Georgia. If that doesn’t bother anybody than nothing will.
Video provided below.
Trump's phone call with Georgia's top election official
There were some issues in Georgia, I'm sure. But there was not thousands of dead people voting (as Trump claimed), there were not over two thousand felons illegally voting (as Trump claimed)....there were dead folks voting and some felons voting illegally but nothing close to the numbers claimed by the GOP.
To make matters worse was the claim that ballots for Biden were scanned repeatedly giving Biden multiple votes per ballot (the electronic votes were matched with actual ballots to over 99% accuracy). Parts were not changed out of the voting machines during the elections (as Trump claimed). And unregistered voters were not allowed to cast a ballot (which is impossible under the GA election process....but this did not claim the GOP from claiming it happened).
So there was fraud (there is always fraud). The lie was sometimes inflating numbers to support a narrative and sometimes outright lies.
The issue is not these wild and unfounded claims. The real issue is vote harvesting and the hijacking of ballots....something that has not been proven on a large scale and would probably be almost impossible to prove.
This shows the real voter fraud, and that is candidates (both Trump and Biden) lying to people in order to deceive them out of their support. No other fraud compares to the fraud inherit in our political system where each sides strives to gain support regardless of the means by which they are gained.
Rudy Giuliani was part of Trump's downfall.
But he’s loyal so he’ll stay.
You and me have a different definition of propaganda.
Why should this demonstration be handled any differently than Seattle, Portland, Atlanta?
The biggest fraud in Ga was the mail in voting and the over voting.
Perhaps. I know that some things that are used as propaganda may not be completely false. I define propaganda as information that is biased or misleading in nature.
Sometimes this could simply be a spin on facts to support a narrative rather than being completely false (like the statement that over two thousand felons voted in the Georgia election when less than 100 felons voted illegally in the Georgia elections or the statement that ballots were scanned more than once while omitting the fact that these were counted only once).
Sometimes it is a mixture of truth and lie (like mixing the fact that the votes of dead people were recorded with the lie that this was thousands of votes rather than less than 50).
But sometimes this includes completely false information (for the Georgia election this would include things like the claim that people who were not registered to vote in the Georgia election were able to vote; parts of the voting machines were changed out mid-election; and thousands of votes were from dead people)
I agree that mail in voting is a vehicle for fraud. But I disagree about "over voting".
The charge was in over 800,000 ballots being case for a little over 400,000 voters. The truth of the issue is the ballots cast were counted off the papers printed (which "doubled the votes") but not really as the papers were not actual votes. This was only in Gwinnett County due to their process (which differs due to a requirement of the voter cards being printed in English and Spanish, with over 97% of voters returning both cards). This was only an issue in Gwinnett County because it is the only county in Georgia that falls under Section 203 of the Voter Right's Act). The "proof" was from the ballot counts prior to processing (the initial count showed double votes, but when processed the two cards were reconciled into one vote).
So this is a good example of propaganda. People have "evidence" in terms of the screen shots of the cards being counted twice and ignore that this was prior to the votes being processed. It is partially true because the ballot numbers are reported correctly (there were a lot more votes than voters) but it is false because it is not dealing with votes actually counted.
There are 7,233,584 registered voters in Georgia. of these 4,997,716 voted.
There were no counties where the number of votes counted were greater than the number of voters in that county.
It was just propaganda.
This is part of the reason President Trump shares some of the blame for the riot at the Capital. He relied on propaganda to keep his base stirred up. To be fair, so did Biden (more so, in fact). But when the certificates were being received was not a good time to continue the propaganda.
Rudy is a show me the money type, so he is for sale. Im surprised the AG in NY hasn’t disbarred him yet but this stunt at the Capitol will change that.
You are right... if the feds are handling it then it should be done uniform ie, establish a perimeter and shoot them if and when they come across it. A night stick could also be a deterrent and so would snipers.
Who’s more childish, you or your darling leader?
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LOL. The more you express your TDS, the more it seems that the real reason you hate Trump is that you are so alike.Who’s more childish, you or your darling leader?
How many BLM the Feds shoot?