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Democrats dont want to wait till 20th, they want Trump removed forcibly now

Reynolds

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I agree that mail in voting is a vehicle for fraud. But I disagree about "over voting".

The charge was in over 800,000 ballots being case for a little over 400,000 voters. The truth of the issue is the ballots cast were counted off the papers printed (which "doubled the votes") but not really as the papers were not actual votes. This was only in Gwinnett County due to their process (which differs due to a requirement of the voter cards being printed in English and Spanish, with over 97% of voters returning both cards). This was only an issue in Gwinnett County because it is the only county in Georgia that falls under Section 203 of the Voter Right's Act). The "proof" was from the ballot counts prior to processing (the initial count showed double votes, but when processed the two cards were reconciled into one vote).

So this is a good example of propaganda. People have "evidence" in terms of the screen shots of the cards being counted twice and ignore that this was prior to the votes being processed. It is partially true because the ballot numbers are reported correctly (there were a lot more votes than voters) but it is false because it is not dealing with votes actually counted.

There are 7,233,584 registered voters in Georgia. of these 4,997,716 voted.

There were no counties where the number of votes counted were greater than the number of voters in that county.

It was just propaganda.

This is part of the reason President Trump shares some of the blame for the riot at the Capital. He relied on propaganda to keep his base stirred up. To be fair, so did Biden (more so, in fact). But when the certificates were being received was not a good time to continue the propaganda.
The election was stolen. Georgia was stolen on the mail in vote. It was illegal. Ga Constitution said Legislature has to change voting law. Sec of state changed it without legislative approval. EVERY mail in vote should be thrown out.
 

JonC

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The election was stolen. Georgia was stolen on the mail in vote. It was illegal. Ga Constitution said Legislature has to change voting law. Sec of state changed it without legislative approval. EVERY mail in vote should be thrown out.
I never said there were no issues. I was speaking of people believing propaganda along with real issues (this one internal to Georgia and a matter for the Georgia courts).

You spoke of over-voting, which did not occur but was reported to have happened by some GOP persons.

Trump spoke of changing parts in voting machines during the election, counting votes twice, allowing non-registered voters to vote, allowing underage voters to vote, thousands of dead people voting, over two thousand felons illegally voting, unmatched siganatures....all of which is fase.

Now, after throwing all that false stuff on the board we are focusing on whether proper processes internal to GA were followed.

It is like the DNC trying to impeach Trump over the past 4 years - decide what you want to happenen and then find a way to make it happen.
 

Reynolds

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I never said there were no issues. I was speaking of people believing propaganda along with real issues (this one internal to Georgia and a matter for the Georgia courts).

You spoke of over-voting, which did not occur but was reported to have happened by some GOP persons.

Trump spoke of changing parts in voting machines during the election, counting votes twice, allowing non-registered voters to vote, allowing underage voters to vote, thousands of dead people voting, over two thousand felons illegally voting, unmatched siganatures....all of which is fase.

Now, after throwing all that false stuff on the board we are focusing on whether proper processes internal to GA were followed.

It is like the DNC trying to impeach Trump over the past 4 years - decide what you want to happenen and then find a way to make it happen.
Over voting did occur in the form of over registration. The counties it happened in were Republican leaning. Exposed the flawed voter rolls more than anything else.
 

church mouse guy

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Over voting did occur in the form of over registration. The counties it happened in were Republican leaning. Exposed the flawed voter rolls more than anything else.

Motor voter needs to be repealed. Voting is under a secretary of state not a bureau of motor vehicles.
 

Reynolds

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I never said there were no issues. I was speaking of people believing propaganda along with real issues (this one internal to Georgia and a matter for the Georgia courts).

You spoke of over-voting, which did not occur but was reported to have happened by some GOP persons.

Trump spoke of changing parts in voting machines during the election, counting votes twice, allowing non-registered voters to vote, allowing underage voters to vote, thousands of dead people voting, over two thousand felons illegally voting, unmatched siganatures....all of which is fase.

Now, after throwing all that false stuff on the board we are focusing on whether proper processes internal to GA were followed.

It is like the DNC trying to impeach Trump over the past 4 years - decide what you want to happenen and then find a way to make it happen.
Jon. Voting machines were changed at last minute. They were vulnerable to hacking. I saw one hacked. Dead people did vote. Convicted felons did vote. The election was stolen using mail in voting. All the other, though they did happen is not how the election was stolen. Did you watch Ga election officials testify Ga Senate Committee?
 

JonC

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Jon. Voting machines were changed at last minute. They were vulnerable to hacking. I saw one hacked. Dead people did vote. Convicted felons did vote. The election was stolen using mail in voting. All the other, though they did happen is not how the election was stolen. Did you watch Ga election officials testify Ga Senate Committee?
I agree. But parts were not changed out of voting machines, there were not thousands of dead people voting (there was less than 50), there was not over two thousand felons voting illegally (there was less than 100). And yes, I did watch the GA election officials testify. I also watched the GA Election commissions rebuttal to Trump's claims.

I am not saying that fraud was absent. Heck, I'm not even saying the election was not stolen (I believe it was). I am saying that the problem is fraud that is unable to track because of a system that needs to be revised.
 

Reynolds

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I agree. But parts were not changed out of voting machines, there were not thousands of dead people voting (there was less than 50), there was not over two thousand felons voting illegally (there was less than 100). And yes, I did watch the GA election officials testify. I also watched the GA Election commissions rebuttal to Trump's claims.

I am not saying that fraud was absent. Heck, I'm not even saying the election was not stolen (I believe it was). I am saying that the problem is fraud that is unable to track because of a system that needs to be revised.
No one knows how many convicted felons voted. Ga systems are not linked. They do not run a criminal history on you when you vote. I would bet 100 convicted felons voted in my county alone.
You believe the election was stolen? In my mind, thefts are stopped snd stolen things get taken back, by whatever means necessary. Do you know our governor? I kind of do. He is a low life piece of garbage. I know one of his childhood, and lifelong good friends. I can't tell you what he now says about that bottom dwelling scum.
 

JonC

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No one knows how many convicted felons voted. Ga systems are not linked. They do not run a criminal history on you when you vote. I would bet 100 convicted felons voted in my county alone.
You believe the election was stolen? In my mind, thefts are stopped snd stolen things get taken back, by whatever means necessary. Do you know our governor? I kind of do. He is a low life piece of garbage. I know one of his childhood, and lifelong good friends. I can't tell you what he now says about that bottom dwelling scum.
If this is true then Trump was wrong to say that over 2,000 felons voted illegally as it was impossible for him to know.

He is your Governor, not mine. I'm separated by a river. :D
 

Reynolds

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If this is true then Trump was wrong to say that over 2,000 felons voted illegally as it was impossible for him to know.

He is your Governor, not mine. I'm separated by a river. :D
Trump could know at least 2000 voted without knowing how many voted. I have arrested people for convicted felon in possession of a firearm and they had a firearms license issued after the conviction. Ga is messed up on its record keeping. From what I saw dealing with S.C. regularly they are no better.
 
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