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Democrats showing true colors.

Earth Wind and Fire

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You know California, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Delaware, and a few others will. The key is not approaching abortion as a challenge to Roe V. Wade, but attacking it from the point of the 14th Amendment. The Supreme court could instantly make abortion illegal in all 50 states if they ruled that the 14th applied to the unborn baby.

We had that.....illegial abortions & deaths were rampent.
 

rlvaughn

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The key is not approaching abortion as a challenge to Roe V. Wade, but attacking it from the point of the 14th Amendment. The Supreme court could instantly make abortion illegal in all 50 states if they ruled that the 14th applied to the unborn baby.
Interesting observation. So that would focus on providing "the equal protection of the laws" part of that amendment to the unborn?
 

Yeshua1

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We had that.....illegial abortions & deaths were rampent.
I doubt that they were "rampant", as that smacks of liberal and fake media propaganda! We did not have the culture of death as we have today, so would have been seen as needing to carry the baby by majority, not kill it!
 

Yeshua1

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Interesting observation. So that would focus on providing "the equal protection of the laws" part of that amendment to the unborn?
They would the right to pursuit of ahppiness and of having God given rights that the state itself could not restrict or abridge, correct?
 

Yeshua1

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This is why SO important to have judges trictly go by what was written and not make the law as they go, as the Founders did not see babies as anyhting other than fully human, and entitled to all of their God given rights...
 

rlvaughn

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They would the right to pursuit of ahppiness and of having God given rights that the state itself could not restrict or abridge, correct?
I think it is only the Declaration of Independence that mentions the pursuit of happiness. The words in the 14th amendment are "...nor shall any state...deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." So if the unborn is recognized as a person, under the U.S. Constitution no state could deny that person equal protection of its laws. Upshot of that is abortion would be unconstitutional/illegal in all 50 states and U.S. territories, if I understand the argument correctly.
 

Reynolds

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This is why SO important to have judges trictly go by what was written and not make the law as they go, as the Founders did not see babies as anyhting other than fully human, and entitled to all of their God given rights...
Judges that respect the intent of the Constitution. Sometimes the exact wording is ambiguous, but the records of the debate on the issue at time of ratification make the intent clear.
 

Adonia

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Right-wing ideologues like you think anything just slightly to the left of Attila the Hun is "communist/socialist in nature".

Here are some of the 10 pillars of communism. 1. A free education for all children in public schools. (The easier to indoctrinate children and we see the results of this in our colleges and universities today) 2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. (This gives a disincentive to work harder). 3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance (The Democrats just love the "death tax" that punishes the surviving family members) 4. The centralization of credit in the hands of the state.(We have Sally Mae and Fannie May). 5. Centralization of the means of communication and Transportation.. (The Democrats just love every bit of the government that controls this sector with AMTRAK, CONRAIL, the FCC)

We cannot forget about the Social (Socialist) Security program that not one member of Congress is obliged to be a part of. Nor can we forget the outright violation of the civil liberties of Japanese-Americans who were sent to camps here in America, just like Stalin had in Siberia. Comrade Roosevelt even wanted to stack the Supreme Court with his fellow travelers.

Are Democrats socialist in nature and in fact? You bet!
 

Yeshua1

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I think it is only the Declaration of Independence that mentions the pursuit of happiness. The words in the 14th amendment are "...nor shall any state...deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." So if the unborn is recognized as a person, under the U.S. Constitution no state could deny that person equal protection of its laws. Upshot of that is abortion would be unconstitutional/illegal in all 50 states and U.S. territories, if I understand the argument correctly.
Is not the infant in the womb alive then? I find it MUCH easier to find support that the Infant is a person under that clause than a woman has an abortion right to privacy!
 

777

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I doubt that they were "rampant", as that smacks of liberal and fake media propaganda! We did not have the culture of death as we have today, so would have been seen as needing to carry the baby by majority, not kill it!

Oh, it's an old old lie by the pro-abortion lobby and DiFi just told it again yesterday:

“Deaths from illegal abortions in this country ran between 200,000 and 1.2 million … so, a lot of women died in that period,” Feinstein claimed. “I don’t want to go back to those death tolls in this country.”

LifeNews quickly fact-checked Feinstein’s comments. But surprisingly at least two mainstream media outlets also called out her error.

The Associated Press reports Feinstein “vastly overstated” the number of women who died in illegal abortions prior to Roe v. Wade, while USA Today described her comment as “dramatically exaggerated.

Even the Liberal Media Calls Out Diane Feinstein for Lying About Women Dying in Illegal Abortions | LifeNews.com

awful argument anyways. People die from legal abortion, armed robbery and murder but that doesn't make those acts legal except one.
 

Yeshua1

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just-want-peace

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Trump stated that he never felt the need to ask for God’s forgiveness, and yet repentance for one’s sins is a precondition to the Christian faith. So what can we Christians conclude?


I would say that what “we Christians” conclude is immaterial. That matter is between him AND Him, not “we Christians”!
 
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