<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lorelei:
I think the difference is in the motivation of the belief. It isn't believing the facts. Those who believe the facts think they are saved, for they "believe", but the Bible warns us about this.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That is my whole point. People who believe they actually have a salvation belief don't know the difference. If you were to ask them for a salvation story, they could give you one.
If given a lie detector test, they would pass it. They actually believe they are going to heaven, but they are not. Their seed will die. They were warned to judge their heart by their fruit, but don't think it is necessary because once they deemed themselves saved, they were told they were saved.
Nothing they can do will change their state, so they don't even try. They are taught a false doctrine, therefore they die expecting to go to heaven, only to hear Jesus reject them.(Matthew 7)
I think the difference is in the motivation of the belief. It isn't believing the facts. Those who believe the facts think they are saved, for they "believe", but the Bible warns us about this.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That is my whole point. People who believe they actually have a salvation belief don't know the difference. If you were to ask them for a salvation story, they could give you one.
If given a lie detector test, they would pass it. They actually believe they are going to heaven, but they are not. Their seed will die. They were warned to judge their heart by their fruit, but don't think it is necessary because once they deemed themselves saved, they were told they were saved.
Nothing they can do will change their state, so they don't even try. They are taught a false doctrine, therefore they die expecting to go to heaven, only to hear Jesus reject them.(Matthew 7)