Departing from the faith

[DHK]

you missed Psalm 68-4 in your theology--HIS NAME IS YAH !!!

The Bible does not say:
"If thou shalt confess with thy mouth YAH, and believe in thy heart that God has raised YAH from the dead thou shalt be saved.

If that is what you believe, then I would have to question your salvation, for salvation is not in the name of YAH; it is in the name of Christ; the name of Jesus;

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Romans 10:9 οτι εαν ομολογησης εν τω στοματι σου κυριον ιησουν και πιστευσης εν τη καρδια σου οτι ο θεος αυτον ηγειρεν εκ νεκρων σωθηση
10 καρδια γαρ πιστευεται εις δικαιοσυνην στοματι δε ομολογειται εις σωτηριαν

The name "YAH" does not appear. One is not saved through the name "YAH." You have been deceived.

 

[HisWitness]

The Bible does not say:
"If thou shalt confess with thy mouth YAH, and believe in thy heart that God has raised YAH from the dead thou shalt be saved.

If that is what you believe, then I would have to question your salvation, for salvation is not in the name of YAH; it is in the name of Christ; the name of Jesus;

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Romans 10:9 οτι εαν ομολογησης εν τω στοματι σου κυριον ιησουν και πιστευσης εν τη καρδια σου οτι ο θεος αυτον ηγειρεν εκ νεκρων σωθηση
10 καρδια γαρ πιστευεται εις δικαιοσυνην στοματι δε ομολογειται εις σωτηριαν

The name "YAH" does not appear. One is not saved through the name "YAH." You have been deceived.

you wrote it wrong friend it is as this--------------------------------------


That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Elohim Yeshua and believe in thine heart that YAH hath raised him(Yeshua)from the dead,thou shalt be saved. that is how it is read---

 

[Steadfast Fred]

you wrote it wrong friend it is as this--------------------------------------


That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Elohim Yeshua and believe in thine heart that YAH hath raised him(Yeshua)from the dead,thou shalt be saved. that is how it is read---

Not in my Bible. Mine reads...

9ὅτι ἐὰν ὁμολογήσῃς ἐν τῷ στόματί σου Κύριον Ἰησοῦν, καὶ πιστεύσῃς ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ σου ὅτι ὁ Θεὸς αὐτὸν ἤγειρεν ἐκ νεκρῶν, σωθήσῃ·

Romans 10:9 (KJV) 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Yeshua is not there, nor Yah.

Paul was speaking to Greeks in their language, not the Hebrew tongue. They would not have understood the Hebrew.

 

[DHK]

you wrote it wrong friend it is as this--------------------------------------


That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Elohim Yeshua and believe in thine heart that YAH hath raised him(Yeshua)from the dead,thou shalt be saved. that is how it is read---

I quoted to you the NT in Greek because that is the language it was written in. Paul wrote Romans and Luke wrote Acts. They wrote it in Greek. Yah, Yeshua and Elohim are all Hebrew words. The Holy Spirit did not inspire them when the NT was written. Even if they are translated back into Hebrew from the Greek, it becomes a translation. It is only the original MSS written in Greek, that are inspired. God inspired the words, those original words spoken by the writers of the NT. They did not write Hebrew words (not in any of the verses I quoted to you). They wrote in Greek.
In the NT YAH and Yeshua are not the inspired names of God by which a man is saved. It is the Lord Jesus Christ, the only name by which one can be saved.

 

[HisWitness]

Not in my Bible. Mine reads...

Romans 10:9 (KJV) 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Yeshua is not there, nor Yah.

Paul was speaking to Greeks in their language, not the Hebrew tongue. They would not have understood the Hebrew.

Lord is a title that translate into-- Elohim
I use the true Hebrew name of Messiah--Yeshua

God is used directly related to the Father--YAH
Him being raised is the Son--Yeshua

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[DHK]

Lord is a title that translate into-- Elohim
I use the true Hebrew name of Messiah--Yeshua

God is used directly related to the Father--YAH
Him being raised is the Son--Yeshua

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

This is foolishness and it is not true.
You have been deceived.
There is no other name but the name of Jesus whereby one must be saved.
You have rejected that name.

 

[HisWitness]

I quoted to you the NT in Greek because that is the language it was written in. Paul wrote Romans and Luke wrote Acts. They wrote it in Greek. Yah, Yeshua and Elohim are all Hebrew words. The Holy Spirit did not inspire them when the NT was written. Even if they are translated back into Hebrew from the Greek, it becomes a translation. It is only the original MSS written in Greek, that are inspired. God inspired the words, those original words spoken by the writers of the NT. They did not write Hebrew words (not in any of the verses I quoted to you). They wrote in Greek.
In the NT YAH and Yeshua are not the inspired names of God by which a man is saved. It is the Lord Jesus Christ, the only name by which one can be saved.

friend the ONLY INSPIRED writings was the originals by the original writers who was guided by YAH himself--NO mistakes were made

what we have now is numerous translations by at least some NON-INSPIRED --translators that has put some errors in there.

and this is expected--because when you translate from 3-4 different languages--there is gonna be mistakes when YAH is not upon all of the translators--esp when wicked rulers put their hand in it and twist some things to fit their own gods and traditions.

 

[DHK]

friend the ONLY INSPIRED writings was the originals by the original writers who was guided by YAH himself--NO mistakes were made

what we have now is numerous translations by at least some NON-INSPIRED --translators that has put some errors in there.

and this is expected--because when you translate from 3-4 different languages--there is gonna be mistakes when YAH is not upon all of the translators--esp when wicked rulers put their hand in it and twist some things to fit their own gods and traditions.

There are over 5,000 manuscripts that attest to the veracity of the NT. Not one of them have the names of YAH, Yeshua, or Elohim.
You are deceived.

 

[HisWitness]

This is foolishness and it is not true.
You have been deceived.
There is no other name but the name of Jesus whereby one must be saved.
You have rejected that name.

your ignorant to believe the English translation was spoken by Hebrews lol

the Hebrew name was Yeshua or other forms that mean the same thing

the true meaning of the real name of messiah is YAH's SALVATION

jesus doesn't mean that at all in the English form and doesn't even sound remotely close to Joshua in sounding.

actually the middle S in jesus carries a Z sounding.

I believe in YAH's Son--but not the error proned English translation of his real name.

I will say his name---Yeshua

if you want to use jesus --do so

I want condemn you and you don't condemn me

Yah's Son who was the messiah shed his blood for all mankind.

we both believe in a Father and Son but disagree on what pronouncement to use for his Son.

 

[HisWitness]

There are over 5,000 manuscripts that attest to the veracity of the NT. Not one of them have the names of YAH, Yeshua, or Elohim.
You are deceived.

can you read friend--Psalm 68-4--HIS NAME IS YAH

ill get you some reading classes ill set them up it need be :laugh::laugh:

 

[DHK]

can you read friend--Psalm 68-4--HIS NAME IS YAH

ill get you some reading classes ill set them up it need be :laugh::laugh:

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.
If you have substituted YAH for Jesus then you are not saved.
Salvation is through Jesus Christ, not YAH.

We are responsible for the light that we have.

 

[HisWitness]

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.
If you have substituted YAH for Jesus then you are not saved.
Salvation is through Jesus Christ, not YAH.

We are responsible for the light that we have.

I said Yeshua not YAH for the Son

YAH is the father and YESHUA is the Son.

Salvation is through Yeshua and Salvation is YAH's

Yah's Salvation through Yeshua for all mankind.

 

[DHK]

your ignorant to believe the English translation was spoken by Hebrews lol

I quoted you the Greek NT, not the Hebrew. It is not I that is deceived.

the Hebrew name was Yeshua or other forms that mean the same thing

the true meaning of the real name of messiah is YAH's SALVATION

Salvation is through Jesus Christ.
Read the verse for yourself:

Romans 10:9 οτι εαν ομολογησης εν τω στοματι σου κυριον ιησουν και πιστευσης εν τη καρδια σου οτι ο θεος αυτον ηγειρεν εκ νεκρων σωθηση

κυριον ιησουν = Lord Jesus. It is that name by which you are saved.

jesus doesn't mean that at all in the English form and doesn't even sound remotely close to Joshua in sounding.

actually the middle S in jesus carries a Z sounding.

It doesn't come from Hebrew it comes from Greek. It was the Greek that was inspired not the Hebrew. You are showing your ignorance"

κυριον ιησουν = Lord Jesus.

I believe in YAH's Son--but not the error proned English translation of his real name.

I will say his name---Yeshua

That is not his name. That is the name of Jehovah.
The name in the NT:

κυριον ιησουν = Lord Jesus.

It is Greek not Hebrew. It is the name by which you must be saved.

if you want to use jesus --do so

I want condemn you and you don't condemn me

Yah's Son who was the messiah shed his blood for all mankind.

we both believe in a Father and Son but disagree on what pronouncement to use for his Son.

His name is Jesus:
κυριον ιησουν = Lord Jesus.
It is not YAH. You have been deceived into believing error.

 

[annsni]

In other words, HW is pressing for the Hebrew names - when the New Testament was written and inspired by God yet He used Greek to write it and the Hebrew names are not used. So God chose to use names other than the Hebrew names which makes HW's argument moot.

 

[Don]

scripture speaks for itself--when it says HIS NAME IS YAH

to deny that is to deny your own name---:laugh::laugh:

So instead of the Barney-hugs-and-kisses lovey-dovey stuff, now you're laughing about denial of scripture?

Buck up, man.

 

[HisWitness]

So instead of the Barney-hugs-and-kisses lovey-dovey stuff, now you're laughing about denial of scripture?

Buck up, man.

laughing about the denial of your own name---:laugh::laugh:

 

[HisWitness]

In other words, HW is pressing for the Hebrew names - when the New Testament was written and inspired by God yet He used Greek to write it and the Hebrew names are not used. So God chose to use names other than the Hebrew names which makes HW's argument moot.

original KJV 1611 has IOSHUA NOT IESOUS

 

[HisWitness]

I quoted you the Greek NT, not the Hebrew. It is not I that is deceived.

Salvation is through Jesus Christ.
Read the verse for yourself:

Romans 10:9 οτι εαν ομολογησης εν τω στοματι σου κυριον ιησουν και πιστευσης εν τη καρδια σου οτι ο θεος αυτον ηγειρεν εκ νεκρων σωθηση

κυριον ιησουν = Lord Jesus. It is that name by which you are saved.

It doesn't come from Hebrew it comes from Greek. It was the Greek that was inspired not the Hebrew. You are showing your ignorance"

κυριον ιησουν = Lord Jesus.

That is not his name. That is the name of Jehovah.
The name in the NT:

κυριον ιησουν = Lord Jesus.

It is Greek not Hebrew. It is the name by which you must be saved.

His name is Jesus:
κυριον ιησουν = Lord Jesus.
It is not YAH. You have been deceived into believing error.

all you know to do is add words into peoples mouth--you do it on every thread.i will state again since you can not understand.

I NEVER SAID YESHUA WAS YAH---I SAID YAH WAS YAH YESHUA IS YESHUA

The Father 's name is YAH--the Son's name is YESHUA.

psalm 68-4 plainly tells you the father 's name is YAH

Just because your man-made traditions goes against scripture like unto the scribes in Yeshua's day did also--you reject plain scripture HIS NAME IS YAH.

 

[DHK]

original KJV 1611 has IOSHUA NOT IESOUS

Don't lie.
Don't make unsubstantiated claims.
If you think that is true then quote the verse and the Greek to go with it, whereby we must call on the name of Joshua to be saved.
You have been deceived.

 

[Amy.G]

You have been deceived.

Yes he has and now he's in a Baptist forum trying to deceive others with his non-Baptist heresies.

Why is that allowed??