Depravity of Man Purposed or Not?

[quantumfaith]

It seems that we would agree that man is aware of general revelation (ie, the sun, moon, plants, animals, etc.).

I agree that special revelation is required as well. But what of the scriptures? I believe that they ARE the special revelation you refer to. Also, Jesus fulfilling of his prophecy, "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto myself.", I believe this is the 'special revelation' you refer to.

Jesus draws all men unto himself, scripture testifies of Him. This is the 'special revelation'. Man, being already drawn by Christ, upon hearing such testimony (the good news), responds in faith to Christ.

Is there an 'extra special revelation' outside of what God has already done and continues to do which God performs?

Of course, it is not man who enabled himself to respond in belief to God. This ability is already part of man's essense given to him by God. Saying that man is able to respond to God does not elevate man but rather it is testimony to a Creator's goodness in that He has enabled man to respond to Him from his deplorable state of being. Ultimately, how else would a systematic theology escape damaging God's character?

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[humblethinker]

Some think a man dead,and seperated from God can do this on their own, but they are mistaken.

I believe there will be a majority saved as the gospel continues to spread worldwide.....it could continue on for thousands of years.

I think that the 'some' you refer to would agree that man did not do it on his own, that it's just a matter of when we were given the ability to respond to God.

It is nice that you think a majority, but why would you think such? It doesn't seem to me that scripture would support such an idea, as comforting as it may be.

 

[JesusFan]

As I understand it, single predestinarians feel that God has ONLY elected the "some" to salvation while simply disregarding the others in their sin.

"Double predestinarians (I think) belive that God actively elected the "some" to salvation and simultaneously intentionally elected the remainder to eternal torment.

Please correct me if you find this to be incorrect.

Essentially you are correct!

Some see God having predestined His elect unto eternal life, leaves rest of man dead in their sins and transgression, active to save/passive towards the lost

Others see God predestinating in active fashion BOTH lost and saved!

I see it as the first group would!