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Frogman,
I answered your questions accurately to the scriptures! There is no deception on my part. If you want a specific outcome, you need to set the stage toward that outcome and you did not "set-up" for the outcome you wanted.
In a previous post, I also gave you a list of Scriptures that contain the word "elect", I don't think you bothered to look at them in their context.
The context says in verse 9 that "God purified their hearts with faith." Then verse 11 says "no, we believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ that we are saved in the same manner as they are", which is by a heart purified by faith!I know the context of this scripture. it does not say 'hearts purified by faith' It says "But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they." Nothing about a heart purified by faith at all. It shows all to be through Grace.
I answered your questions accurately to the scriptures! There is no deception on my part. If you want a specific outcome, you need to set the stage toward that outcome and you did not "set-up" for the outcome you wanted.
In a previous post, I also gave you a list of Scriptures that contain the word "elect", I don't think you bothered to look at them in their context.
Paul's letter is to the Gentile Roman believers who came to believe because of the word preached to them. God's chosen (elect) people are the Jews. We who believe in Jesus, are adopted into the elect through faith.
Who are the elect:
Isaiah 42:1
Isaiah 45:4
Isaiah 65:9
Isaiah 65:22 or 22
Matt 24:22
Matt 24:24
Matt 24:31
Luke 18:7
Romans 8:33
Col 3:12
1 Tim 5:21
2 Tim 2:10
Titus 1:1
1 Peter 1:2
1 Peter 2:6
1 Peter 5:13
2 John 1
2 John 13
Just some verses for further consideration
I trust that you will not remove Isaiah from your bible just because the faithful prophet of God states clearly that Israel, all of Israel is God's elect. You see, Isaiah recognized what all of Israel's enemies knew instinctively. God has a favorite people on this earth, and that in the end, God will save them too! Otherwise you can continue in your myth that only the "elect" will be saved.The Jews being the 'elect' theory and all others can only come by faith just doesn't follow scripture. It is appealing, it garners many catch phrases and can capture the attention, but it does not follow the whole counsel of God as James outlines also in Ch. 15. Why do you insist on context and then mutilate it to such a degree. The whole point my post was making is there is only one way to come to God.