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Did Europe's Latest (& Little Noticed) Anti-Russia Move Just Push The World Closer To WW3?

asterisktom

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Quite possibly the biggest Russia-West provocation of the entire four-month long war in Ukraine has occurred this weekend, but few in the media establishment seem to be taking notice of the singular event which has the potential to quickly spiral toward a WW3 scenario.

"Baltic EU/NATO member Lithuania has implemented a ban on all rail transit goods going to Russia's far-western exclave of Kaliningrad"
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...asure-could-trigger-ww3-few-are-taking-notice
Did Europe's Latest (& Little Noticed) Anti-Russia Move Just Push The World Closer To WW3? | ZeroHedge
 
Wingman68

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For some reason, for months now, even though I’ve cleaned up cookies, cache etc, I cannot link to zerohedge. I was signed in to their site too. Frustrating.
 
Squire Robertsson

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Before VE Day, Kaliningrad was the Prussian\German city of Konigsburg. I can understand why it wasn't given back to Germany when the USSR resolved. But it should have been given to Poland or Lithuania.
 
canadyjd

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The “biggest push to WW3” was Putin invading Ukraine in violation of his agreement to recognize Ukraines border.

This OP is akin to accusing a rape victim of making the rapist “mad” for fighting back.

peace to you
 
asterisktom

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Squire Robertsson said:
Before VE Day, Kaliningrad was the Prussian\German city of Konigsburg. I can understand why it wasn't given back to Germany when the USSR resolved. But it should have been given to Poland or Lithuania.
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My grandparents on the German side were from there. The territory has passed hands many times. An interesting, though longish, read on this is "Poland" by James Michener.
 
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canadyjd said:
The “biggest push to WW3” was Putin invading Ukraine in violation of his agreement to recognize Ukraines border.

This OP is akin to accusing a rape victim of making the rapist “mad” for fighting back.

peace to you
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Please try to look a little deeper than that.
 
asterisktom

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Squire Robertsson said:
IIRC, the city was a historic part of East Prussia.
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Yes. And before the Teutonic Knights took it over it was Pommern (Pomerania). And before that Goths, Varangians (depends on whose history is consulted).

But the question comes up: How far back do we go to settle legitimate claim? This has been the cause of lots of wars in the world.

IIRC. I like that. I had to look it up, but I can see myself using that for sure!
 
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Conan

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canadyjd said:
The deeper I look, the more murderous mayhem and destruction I see caused by Putin’s invasion of a sovereign nation.

peace to you
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We are the ones who broke agreements. It's always us. That is bush, 0bamo, bid0 and of course our wonderful diplomats and the most wonderful ci0. We promised there would be no further nato expansion eastward. We even violently couped the Russian friendly elected President in Ukraine with nazis in 2014. The reason for the coup? Because we went back on our word and want to expand into Ukraine so our billionaires can make money off of Ukraine. We unfortunately want to put missles on Russia's borders. It was unacceptable when they put missiles in Cuba. So we withdrew our missiles from Turkey and they their from Cuba. Certainly no one wants missiles on their borders. Of course since we are the stronger (the American way) we can push folks around and tell them what to do. We told Russia we would destroy their economy and put on sanctions on their country if they got in our way. They decided to stand up to us instead of bowing down.
 
canadyjd

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Conan said:
We are the ones who broke agreements…,

We promised there would be no further nato expansion eastward….

We unfortunately want to put missles on Russia's borders…

We told Russia we would destroy their economy and put on sanctions on their country if they got in our way…...
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please provide a source for your claim the US and NATO promised “not to expand eastward”?

please provide a source for your claim the US wants “to put middles on Russia’s border”?

Please provide a source for your claim the US told Russia we would “destroy their economy” if they got in our way?

Please explain when this happened? Please give credible sources

peace to you
 
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canadyjd said:
please provide a source for your claim the US and NATO promised “not to expand eastward”?

please provide a source for your claim the US wants “to put middles on Russia’s border”?

Please provide a source for your claim the US told Russia we would “destroy their economy” if they got in our way?

Please explain when this happened? Please give credible sources

peace to you
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I have already done so in the Scott Ritter videos that i posted. I begged you watch from the most credible source on this planet. You missed out. Everything I said is true. You can see many more on YouTube right now. It just takes a little search. I've moved on having seen alot. I don't hold onto links like i should. If i see a new good one ill post it for you.
 
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I have already done so in the Scott Ritter videos that i posted. I begged you watch from the most credible source on this planet. You missed out. Everything I said is true. You can see many more on YouTube right now. It just takes a little search. I'll post some like sources for you tonight.
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If a person does not need the truth, how can reliable sources help him?
 
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