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Did Jesus ever kill anyone?

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Jarthur001

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Brother Bob said:
I don't understand too well James as you know it goes over my head so would you please explain it to me. Was your God dead when Jesus was dead?
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1 ) God is Spirit
2 ) Christ is God.
3 ) Christ set aside His glory and came to earth took on a body.
4 ) The body Christ took on Died and was real, and he tatsed death just as any other body.
5 ) Being that God is Spirit, the Spirit never dies, just the body He took on.

now...do you believe this?
 

ituttut

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We agree on the four.
1. Do you believe Jesus is, and always has been God?
Yes! And the Word became flesh. The Word is God, and His name is Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God. God is a God of division?

2. Did God, in his righteous judgment, ever kill anyone?
Yes! God is very demanding, and it makes no difference who He will kill, if it please Him. Exodus 4:24

3. Do you have a problem referring to Jesus as God?
No! But distinguishing qualities are necessary as the need arises, to identify diversities of God.

4. Do you think God was justified in killing all those Egyptians and many others?
Yes! God does not need to justify His actions, but as He is just, any action He takes is justified.

 

Brother Bob

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Are you saying that Jesus did not die or are you saying Jesus is not God?
You are doing all the saying and are you saying then that a part of God was dead? "I come not to do my will but the will of the Father". If they are the same how could they have 2 wills, this gets wierder and wierder.
 

Brother Bob

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1 ) God is Spirit
2 ) Christ is God.
3 ) Christ set aside His glory and came to earth took on a body. So we didn't have a God in Heaven while God was on the earth and when God died on the earth we didn't have a God at all, is that what you are saying?

4 ) The body Christ took on Died and was real, and he tatsed death just as any other body. When you say Christ took on you really mean "God took on" right?

5 ) Being that God is Spirit, the Spirit never dies, just the body He took on. So then, God died in the body and His Spirit went back to His Spirit and..........

now...do you believe this?
I don't know what you said. Its wierd! So Jesus really was not dead, it was just something else that was dead. Remember here we are talking about Jesus. I can't find Jesus in OT, can you.

So when it says "God gave His only begotten Son, He really didn't did He"?
 
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DeeJay

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Brother Bob said:
You are doing all the saying and are you saying then that a part of God was dead? "I come not to do my will but the will of the Father". If they are the same how could they have 2 wills, this gets wierder and wierder.

So to be clear I ask the questions.

You believe that Jesus and God are not the same being?
Do you believe that Jesus is God, or not?
 

Brother Bob

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Yes, I believe that Jesus is God but I also believe that God can be in three parts such as the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost.
How can Jesus sit on the right hand of God if there is no difference in them.
 

Brother Bob

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So to be clear I ask the questions.

You believe that Jesus and God are not the same being?
Do you believe that Jesus is God, or not?
No, we not playing that game. You answer my questions first. If He is God then how did He come to do the will of the Father. When He was baptized who spoke from Heaven and said this is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased.

What you are saying is that the Son of God did not die for the sins of the world. Or you are saying God was dead while Jesus lay in the tomb.
 

Jarthur001

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BOB SAID..in the Bold...
So we didn't have a God in Heaven while God was on the earth and when God died on the earth we didn't have a God at all, is that what you are saying?
No...God the Father is Spirit. He is in Heaven..and any where He wants to be.

Again..do you believe this? Are you ashame to say yes or no?

BOB SAID...........
When you say Christ took on you really mean "God took on" right?
Christ is God...so yes you could say this.


Do you believe Chrsit is God?

BOB SAID.........
So then, God died in the body and His Spirit went back to His Spirit

Christ is God. The Body that God took on died...YES

His Spirit was and is. It did not have to go anywhere.

Do you believe Christ is God? What are you ashame to say Bob?
 

Jarthur001

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Brother Bob said:
No, we not playing that game. You answer my questions first. If He is God then how did He come to do the will of the Father. When He was baptized who spoke from Heaven and said this is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased.

What you are saying is that the Son of God did not die for the sins of the world. Or you are saying God was dead while Jesus lay in the tomb.

I get this very same thing asked of me by JWs.
 

Brother Bob

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Do you believe Christ is God? What are you ashame to say Bob?
Stop! being so creepy. I already stated several time already that I believed that Christ is God, I also believe that Jesus is His Son in the flesh. I also don't believe God was ever dead.
 

Jarthur001

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Brother Bob said:
Stop! being so creepy. I already stated several time already that I believed that Christ is God, I also believe that Jesus is His Son in the flesh. I also don't believe God was ever dead.
then why all this ? was it to close the thread?
 

Brother Bob

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I get this very same thing asked of me by JWs.
Why not answer it then. Jesus really didn't give His life for the sin of the world according to your belief did He? It was just some human form he picked up that died. Is that what you are saying?
 

Brother Bob

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Nothing to say. Just wanted to get one more post in before the thread gets shut down.​
Well, I will leave then so you can have it to yourselves. Jesus is when Christ came in the flesh under the NT and no where under the NT will you find where Jesus killed anyone. To say other wise is false. I would rather have the testimony of the theif than yours. "This man hath done nothing". amen and have fun.

One last request. anyone of you give me an example where Jesus in the flesh killed anyone.
 
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npetreley

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Once again, just for the heck of it...

IMO, this is silly. The problem here is that when you say "Jesus" people will think "incarnate". Those people will say no, He never killed anyone, and they would be right in their own minds. But I don't see how you can separate the trinity such that one hand isn't equally responsible for what the other is doing. Could anyone actually claim that Jesus disagrees with the Father regarding the people God has killed? [sarcasm] "Gee, Dad, I wish you hadn't done that. Now that guy on BB is going to blame it on me." Yeah, I can see that. [/sarcasm]
 

Brother Bob

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Jesus in his human body when he was on earth did not phycally kill anybody. However Jesus is God and God has killed people. But when I referre to Jesus I am speaking of the physical human body of God.
That is who Jesus is. You will not find Jesus in the OT but only after taking a body of flesh. And after taking a body of Flesh He was Jesus and I can't find anywhere Jesus Killed anyone as Joseph said He did.

Matthew, chapter 1
21": And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

You do err greatly!
 
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