Different interpretations based on different interpretations.... lol

[Silverhair]

Cults? It’s the largest and oldest Church in the world. There’s far better suggestions for human founded cults.



I think I understand what you are asking. It’s not a question of power, so a yes no answer doesn’t apply.

The Holy Spirit can’t reside with Satan. It’s one or the other not both.

The Holy Spirit is Holy, He can not co-inhabit what’s in Satan’s dominion, filth.

So the Holy Divine Nature is not going to form unity, with filth. The two are polar opposite.

So a fitting Holy place has to made, a sanctuary from filth.

The Ark had to be made as a pure sanctuary, as Mary had to be made a pure sanctuary. Fallen world requires a holy sanctuary for a Holy God.

“And they are to make a sanctuary for Me, so that I may dwell among them.”

Mary had to be preserved from sin as a sanctuary for Jesus, and so she could conceive Jesus from her sinless flesh, and He dwell among us.

Mary is The Ark of The New Covenant. The ancient Fathers and Bishops of the Catholic Church knew this from the Apostles.

“O noble Virgin, truly you are greater than any other greatness. For who is your equal in greatness, O dwelling place of God the Word? To whom among all creatures shall I compare you, O Virgin? You are greater than them all O Covenant, clothed with purity instead of gold! You are the Ark in which is found the golden vessel containing the true manna, that is, the flesh in which divinity resides.” Athanasius, Homily of the Papyrus of Turin, 71:216 (ante AD 373).

This is the profound depths of Scripture revealed here.

More private interpretation from the one that denies the ability to do private interpretation. Why do you not believe what the Holy Spirit / God says? Do you think you or the RCC has authority over God? I hope not but from what you keep writing you seem to think you do.

It is obvious you do not believe God. So who do you believe?

 

[Mikoo]

“he has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent away empty”

Thank you for again proving correct what I wrote.

 

[Cathode]

Thank you for again proving correct what I wrote.

No, thank you mate, for making me appreciate the Apostolic interpretation of Scripture more.

 

[Cathode]

More private interpretation from the one that denies the ability to do private interpretation. Why do you not believe what the Holy Spirit / God says? Do you think you or the RCC has authority over God? I hope not but from what you keep writing you seem to think you do.

It is obvious you do not believe God. So who do you believe?

Has your opinion of scripture always felt like the truth to you?

“ what the words mean to me “ = Truth.

Have you ever had the introspection to consider that perhaps your opinions could be wrong in any way, God forbid.

Many Bible alone traditions believe very different interpretations from you.

It should at least give you pause.

 

[Mikoo]

No, thank you mate, for making me appreciate the Apostolic interpretation of Scripture more.

Hmmm. No mate, Thank You!

Sounds like when someone told me that they follow the man-made 'word of god' in the book of mormon and their' 'apostles' teaching to understand The Word of God (Bible).

Or when the JW follows the man-made 'interpretation of scripture' through the lens of The WatchTower.

The rc denomination follows the man-made catechism of the rc denomination for their interpretation of the actual Word of God (Bible).

This just makes me appreciate that God pulled me out and away from the heretical teaching/doctrines of the men of the rc denomination.

 

[Mikoo]

Has your opinion of scripture always felt like the truth to you?

“ what the words mean to me “ = Truth.

Have you ever had the introspection to consider that perhaps your opinions could be wrong in any way, God forbid.

Many Bible alone traditions believe very different interpretations from you.

It should at least give you pause.

Has your opinion of scripture through the lens of the man-made catechism of the rc denomination always felt like the truth to you?

To me The Word = Bible = Truth

Have you ever had the introspection to consider that perhaps your opinions could be wrong in any way, God forbid?

Many Bible alone traditions believe very different interpretations from you.

It should at least give you pause.

 

[Silverhair]

No, thank you mate, for making me appreciate the Apostolic interpretation of Scripture more.

So you have made your choice. You will follow man's, the RCC, private interpretation over the inspired word of God. You have chosen the wrong path.

Mat_7:13 "Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.
You have chosen the wide path of man, the RCC.
You have chosen to follow the dogma's of that institution rather than the bible.

Mat_7:14 "For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
Bible believing Christians have chosen the narrow path.
Joh_14:6 Jesus *said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

 

[Cathode]

So you have made your choice. You will follow man's, the RCC, private interpretation over the inspired word of God. You have chosen the wrong path.

Mat_7:13 "Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.
You have chosen the wide path of man, the RCC.
You have chosen to follow the dogma's of that institution rather than the bible.

Mat_7:14 "For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
Bible believing Christians have chosen the narrow path.
Joh_14:6 Jesus *said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

Are people following the Bible if they believe erroneous private interpretations of it.?

 

[Silverhair]

Are people following the Bible if they believe erroneous private interpretations of it.?

Well you think the leadership of your church has, although what they have come up with does call their ability to interpret scripture into question. So since they believe erroneous private interpretation then no they are not following the bible but rather their own interpretation.

That is why Bible believing Christians do not trust in erroneous private interpretations of scripture. We trust in the God give Holy Spirit inspired Word of God that the indwelling Holy Spirit leads us to understand.

 

[Cathode]

Well you think the leadership of your church has, although what they have come up with does call their ability to interpret scripture into question. So since they believe erroneous private interpretation then no they are not following the bible but rather their own interpretation.

Whose to say whose interpretation is wrong in Bible alone traditions ? The Bible? That’s circular.

I realise it’s not given for private interpreters to understand Scripture, not in a million light years will they arrive at the objective Truth.

“They who are placed without the Church, cannot attain to any understanding of the divine word. For the ship exhibits a type of Church, the word of life placed and preached within which, they who are without, and lie near like barren and scattered sands, cannot understand.” Hilary of Poitiers, On Matthew, Homily 13:1 (A.D. 355).

 

[Silverhair]

Whose to say whose interpretation is wrong in Bible alone traditions ? The Bible? That’s circular.

I realise it’s not given for private interpreters to understand Scripture, not in a million light years will they arrive at the objective Truth.

“They who are placed without the Church, cannot attain to any understanding of the divine word. For the ship exhibits a type of Church, the word of life placed and preached within which, they who are without, and lie near like barren and scattered sands, cannot understand.” Hilary of Poitiers, On Matthew, Homily 13:1 (A.D. 355).

The only truth we have is the bible.

We have historical fact that the RCC has changed the text of the bible so they do not have any credibility regarding interpretation. Plus all the dogma's that they have added are just private interpretation so once again, of no value when seeking truth. Oh and don't forget what they added to the text of scripture to support their dogma's. The more you look at the RCC the less credibility they have. Some would say it is just a self-serving man-made institution.

So we trust the word of God as it is written, which you have show many times that you do not do so we can not trust your interpretation either. So again we come back to trusting the written Word of God.

Ya that sure is circular As a bible believing Christian I trust the bible as written. The indwelling Holy Spirit is my guide. You should let Him be yours.

 

[Cathode]

The rc members absolute ignorance/twisting of God's Word (at times on purpose IHMO) is astounding. All cult-like groups have to do that in order to teach their heretical/anti-Bible doctrines.

The ancient Apostolic understanding of Scripture seems completely alien to you, because your traditions are filtered through all the private interpretations of scripture in the last 500 years.

 

[37818]

@Cathode,
We each presumably believe the word of God as we each think we understand it to be and mean. And it seems we disagree on points disagreement we think the other is in error in understanding. Now each point needs to be dealt with case by case.

 

[Cathode]

The only truth we have is the bible.

That’s not what the bible says. The Church is the “pillar and foundation of the truth “.

So we trust the word of God as it is written, which you have show many times that you do not do so we can not trust your interpretation either. So again we come back to trusting the written Word of God.

Ya that sure is circular

That’s what I’ve been saying. Circular.

 

[37818]

. . . the bible says. The Church is the “pillar and foundation of the truth “.

1 Timothy 3:15, ". . . But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. . . ."

 

[Cathode]

@Cathode,
We each presumably believe the word of God as we each think we understand it to be and mean. And it seems we disagree on points disagreement we think the other is in error in understanding. Now each point needs to be dealt with case by case.

That’s why it’s not my private interpretation that Mary is sinless, it’s the ancient Apostolic understanding of Scripture.
The Apostles understanding is by The Holy Spirit, not interpreted by “ what the words mean to me “ or what the words mean to the other private interpreters of scripture in the last 500 years.

 

[Silverhair]

The ancient Apostolic understanding of Scripture seems completely alien to you, because your traditions are filtered through all the private interpretations of scripture in the last 500 years.

Actually the ancient Apostolic understanding of scripture is what I study every day, it's called the bible.

You do not do that as you rely on the RCC to tell you what to think. And from what has been shown your RCC has not been doing a very good job of that. They have tried to add to or remove scripture as it suits their purpose so not what I would call trustworthy.

So your RCC institution has been doing erroneous private interpretation form the start.

 

[Cathode]

Actually the ancient Apostolic understanding of scripture is what I study every day, it's called the bible.

You do not do that as you rely on the RCC to tell you what to think. And from what has been shown your RCC has not been doing a very good job of that. They have tried to add to or remove scripture as it suits their purpose so not what I would call trustworthy.

So your RCC institution has been doing erroneous private interpretation form the start.

“ Without the Catholic Church, we would have no Bible “ Professor Peter Flint, Protestant translator of the Dead Sea scrolls.

 

[Silverhair]

That’s why it’s not my private interpretation that Mary is sinless, it’s the ancient Apostolic understanding of Scripture.
The Apostles understanding is by The Holy Spirit, not interpreted by “ what the words mean to me “ or what the words mean to the other private interpreters of scripture in the last 500 years.

You say mary being sinless is the ancient Apostolic understanding well I am sure you have clear scripture to back that claim up. Oh wait your depending on the private interpretation of the RCC too tell you that. Don't you think it would be wiser to trust what the author, the Holy Spirit, actually said? But then again I have pointed that out to you more than once and you still trust the errant ideas of the RCC over the Word of God.

 

[Silverhair]

“ Without the Catholic Church, we would have no Bible “ Professor Peter Flint, Protestant translator of the Dead Sea scrolls.

Actually with out the apostles inspired by the Holy Spirit we would have no bible. The RCC did not write the text of the bible although they do seem to think they can edit it.

God would have preserved His word no matter what He just used the RCC to bring together the books that were already accepted by the church at large.