DNA OF JESUS PART II

[Armchair Apologist]

So, are you saying women do not have a sin nature? Or that women cannot pass the sin nature on, it must be the man that passes the sin nature?

You asked why it was necessary, I gave you one possible explanation.

Peace to you

Yes, women have a sin nature! It was passed to them through Adam as all women are born of Adam right? Mary (the mother of Jesus) being born of Adam was therefore sinful as any other woman. The virgin birth took Adam out of the equation whereby Jesus was conceived and born without sin.

I can appreciate your explanation but I would assert that it was not necessary for the very same reason that the immaculate conception was not necessary.

 

[Armchair Apologist]

First of all, you don't know the basic life science.
Man's body has 46 chromosome and 44 common chromosome plus XY, resulting in 46 chromosome
Mary had 46 Chromosome and 44 common chromosome plus XX, resulting in 46 chromosome
If the ovum of Mary was used, 22 chromosome plus X should have been fertilized with the Sperm which had 22 chromosome plus Y, then the human embryo would have had 44 common chromosome plus XY.
Human ovum is designed to be fertilized only with human sperm. Who provided the sperm?
Now here is another question. When did the body of Jesus who is Eternal God start to exist?
You are separating the Divinity of Jesus from the Humanity which was condemned by Council of Ephesus in 431AD.
I don't prohibit such possibility but want to let you know even that idea isn't accepted by Catholics.
Now, the question is whether the new body and new brain made from the ovum of Mary can remember what happened eternity before the Creation? Can the brain of the new body formed by the egg of Mary and the new sperm remember the events with Abraham?
When did the Brain of Jesus start to exist?
This is the important question about your understanding of the Eternal Deity of Jesus.
When God created Adam in His likeness ( Gen 1:26-27), Whose likeness was used for molding Adam? Likeness of Holy Spirit? Likeness of God the Father?

Eliyahu

I had a "brain-fart" regarding the number of chromosomes of a human cell. Thank you for the clarification.

You are not making sense elsewhere either in this post or in your other response to me.

I am not separating Jesus's humanity from his divinity. They are inseparable yet not mixed one with the other. Rather than risk a charge of heresy due to my own inadequate explanation, I will defer to the Chalcedonian definition:

Therefore, following the holy fathers, we all with one accord teach men to acknowledge one and the same Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, at once complete in Godhead and complete in manhood, truly God and truly man, consisting also of a reasonable soul and body; of one substance with the Father as regards his Godhead, and at the same time of one substance with us as regards his manhood; like us in all respects, apart from sin; as regards his Godhead, begotten of the Father before the ages, but yet as regards his manhood begotten, for us men and for our salvation, of Mary the Virgin, the God-bearer; one and the same Christ, Son, Lord, Only-begotten, recognized in two natures, without confusion, without change, without division, without separation; the distinction of natures being in no way annulled by the union, but rather the characteristics of each nature being preserved and coming together to form one person and subsistence, not as parted or separated into two persons, but one and the same Son and Only-begotten God the Word, Lord Jesus Christ; even as the prophets from earliest times spoke of him, and our Lord Jesus Christ himself taught us, and the creed of the fathers has handed down to us.

Exactly what do you mean by the "Brain" of Jesus? Being "Truly God," Jesus has the attribute of 'simplicity' meaning that he is a spiritual being not comprised of 'parts' and therefore has no "brain."

By his "brain" are you speaking of his consciousness or the essence of his being meaning his "soul?" Do we not as humans have an eternal soul and are therefore consciousness after death?

Are you trying to say that somehow Jesus was eternally existent in his humanity? Luke is quite clear (in the scripture I previously cited) that Jesus grew in wisdom and understanding as he came of age which is what one being "truly man" would naturally do so you tell me what was going on in the adolescent "brain" of Jesus?

 

[Aaron]

The virgin birth took Adam out of the equation whereby Jesus was conceived and born without sin.

That's a common but mistaken notion. Sin isn't a genetic thing. Christ is sinless because He is the uncorruptible God. Sin isn't something that is given, but something that is not given, and that thing is life. Mary could no more give life than Adam.

The Virgin birth was a sign, not a necessity.

 

[kyredneck]

The Virgin birth was a sign, not a necessity.

Excellent articulation!