Do ALL Calvinist Say that faith Itself Comes From God, is A Gift Directly?

[Van]

Reply to Jesusfan

Jesus here was addressing the pharisees, and his point to them is that due to YOUR teachings, Kingdom being denied to people..

Does not address doctrine of election, just that they were false spiritual leaders and guides, that IF one adhered to THEIR ways, would not enter into Kingdom, but those of God hear voice of jesus and will enter as one of His flock...

Also, Jesus said that in End times...
Signs and wonders performed thast IF POSSIBLE even the elect might be deceived, but the implication here is that it would not be possible!

We have what He said, no need to say He did not say it! He said the people were entering heaven. He did not say they might have entered heaven if. He does address the Calvinist view of election, for only the elect receive God's irresistible grace, enabling them to enter heaven. Thus, according to the doctrine, they had received irresistible grace. Yet they did not enter heaven. Thus "irresistible grace" is false doctrine. There is no escape, you can only pretend it says something else.

In summary, Matthew 23:13 demonstrates to anyone who looks at scripture with an open mind, that irresistible grace is false.

 

[Jim1999]

So, you say God is inferior to man! Great theology; great teaching! That puny man can tell God what to do.

Cheers,

Jim