Do "Old earth" Age Christians Also believe InThe Evolutionary process?

[preachinjesus]

It would be important to remember that, when in Scripture it speaks of death it is almost always referring to humanity. It rarely, if ever?, applies to animals or plant life.

 

[Robert Snow]

It's no game, bub. It's life and death.

Sure it is.

Just keep repeating that lie to yourself long enough and you will eventually believe it.

 

[quantumfaith]

It would be important to remember that, when in Scripture it speaks of death it is almost always referring to humanity. It rarely, if ever?, applies to animals or plant life.

preachinjesus,

I do understand that, my comment about death prior to the fall, was in reference to death of dinosaurs and life prior Adam and Eve. Furthermore, not only science, but I think scripture as well teaches us that nothing of physical creation (including man) was engineered to live a immortal existence. For me, the narrative of the Tree of Life points out this fact. I am convinced that "entropy" was the intention from the beginning.

 

[quantumfaith]

God could have created the universe in 6 seconds. But He didn't. And the manner in which He went about it is meant for our instruction, to learn of him.

Now here comes another story. They're saying here's how God "really" did it. In other words, they want us to regard them as the arbiters of truth, not Moses or Jesus.

This is disingenuous Aaron, no one is requiring, requesting asking or begging you to see them (myself) as arbiters of truth, you are simply trying to paint a canvas about others as you wish them to be, for whatever reasons you might have.

 

[Aaron]

Now there is one thing we can agree on. He could have done creation anyway He saw fit.

Did He tell us how He did it?

 

[Aaron]

It would be important to remember that, when in Scripture it speaks of death it is almost always referring to humanity. It rarely, if ever?, applies to animals or plant life.

It's important to remember that the shedding of blood is a result of, and for the remission of sin.

 

[Aaron]

preachinjesus,

I do understand that, my comment about death prior to the fall, was in reference to death of dinosaurs and life prior Adam and Eve.

But Adam and Eve's parents died.

So I would like to know exactly how you think Adam came to be. And "God made him" isn't what I'm asking. You've already asserted you do not believe it was a special act of creation directly from the dust on the sixth, 24-hour day from the moment the universe came into being.

So Adam had to have had some parents. What do you think they were like? What kind of society might they have had if any? Did they have a language? Whom did they worship, etc.? What does "science" teach us about the advent of Adam?

Furthermore, not only science, but I think scripture as well teaches us that nothing of physical creation (including man) was engineered to live a immortal existence. For me, the narrative of the Tree of Life points out this fact. I am convinced that "entropy" was the intention from the beginning.

Careful, you're treading on the verge of Calvinism. It's asserted that the corruption of Adam was intended from the beginning. For the wages of sin is death.

 

[Aaron]

This is disingenuous Aaron, no one is requiring, requesting asking or begging you to see them (myself) as arbiters of truth, you are simply trying to paint a canvas about others as you wish them to be, for whatever reasons you might have.

They most certainly are. That's why they insist that Evolution be the basis of our institutions of science, law and education. One just has to open his eyes to see it.

 

[Aaron]

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[JesusFan]

They most certainly are. That's why they insist that Evolution be the basis of our institutions of science, law and education. One just has to open his eyes to see it.

The Bible is quite clear regarding the "origin of species", and of the creation of all things by God...

Think that Evolution grew out of/from the same "spring" that gave the Church the concept that the OT was complied and sourced all together, ole "documentarty" Hypothisis, which was simply evolution being applied to understand the Bible...

again, where is ALL that proof from science that shows that there were these processes used by God to advance life along upon the earth?

This all seems to me to be the rsult of Christianity taking at face value, without substainable "proofs" all those allenged facts that the evolutionists brought to us!

 

[preachinjesus]

It's important to remember that the shedding of blood is a result of, and for the remission of sin.

The only shedding of blood which actually remits sins under the Old Covenantal system was that of specific animals at specific times and in specific places. It isn't a universal sense (i.e. Bambi is running through the forest and a stick scratchces his leg and blood drips out.)

Under the New Covenant there was only one time and place, and only one Person, whereby pure blood was to be shed and thus act as a propitiation for sin.

 

[quantumfaith]

They most certainly are. That's why they insist that Evolution be the basis of our institutions of science, law and education. One just has to open his eyes to see it.

If you care to know what makes the most "sense" to me (at this time) you could read "The Science of God" by Dr. Gerald Schroeder.

 

[quantumfaith]

But Adam and Eve's parents died.

So I would like to know exactly how you think Adam came to be. And "God made him" isn't what I'm asking. You've already asserted you do not believe it was a special act of creation directly from the dust on the sixth, 24-hour day from the moment the universe came into being.

So Adam had to have had some parents. What do you think they were like? What kind of society might they have had if any? Did they have a language? Whom did they worship, etc.? What does "science" teach us about the advent of Adam?

Careful, you're treading on the verge of Calvinism. It's asserted that the corruption of Adam was intended from the beginning. For the wages of sin is death.

Despite what you "apparently" think of me, I am not a calvinist "hater". What I do find detestable is the manner in which some "matter of factly" contemptuously dismiss others who do not share their reformed theological system. THAT is what brings out the "snarkiness" in me, it is not the disagreement.

 

[Aaron]

Still waiting to for your view on the advent of Adam. Who or what were his parents, etc.