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Do the KJVO accept any other Translation really then?

Ben1445

Active Member
Some KJV-only advocates in effect suggest that the KJV directs them into the human, non-scriptural KJV-only doctrine, which is false doctrine. In my opinion, they actually read their human KJV-only opinions into verses in the KJV that do not teach them.

Some KJV-only advocates may be somewhat misled or directed into a wrong doctrine of church government by the episcopal bias that is in it. Some KJV-only pastors seem to think that the KJV directs them to be lords over God's heritage as one-man rulers over a congregation.

KJV-only author Roy L. Branson wrote: “God commands the pastor to rule” (Dear Preacher, p. 108). Roy Branson declared: “The pastor is called the ruler of the church, Heb. 13:7, 17, and God’s program is directed through him. Moses is the original model and that model was not changed in the transition from the Old to the New Testament” (Most Christians, p. 106). Roy Branson asserted: “The pastor is God’s governor appointed to rule over the church” (Church Split, p. 114). Concerning the pastor, Roy Branson wrote: “Call him a dictator if you will, since God has given him nearly absolute authority” (p. 42).

Evangelist Hal Webb asserted: “The Bible gives pastoral office first place” and “The pastor is the head of the church family” (Fairhaven Fundamentalist, 1997, p. 9). Evangelist Kenny McComas asserted that “God intends for the rulership of the church to lie in the pastor” (God Given Pastoral Authority, p. 10). Kenny McComas declared: “Often by divine direction and not by choice, the pastor must become dictatorial” (p. 31). Would God actually contradict His word and divinely direct a pastor to act as a lord or master (1 Pet. 5:3, Matt. 23:10)?

KJV-only advocate Wally Beebe claimed that “the Scriptures teach us that the church is a body with one head, the pastor, and his head is Christ” (Church Bus News, Jan.-Mar., 1991, p. 16). Wally Beebe claimed that “obviously Paul was the head of the church of Corinth and head of many churches that he started and pastored. The Bible consistently talks about using a man but not a group of men as the leadership in a particular church” (Ibid.). Appealing to Hebrews 13:7, 17 while ignoring the plural pronouns, Wally Beebe asserted: “The pastor (one man) was to rule the church, not a board or group of elders” (Church Bus News, Jan.-March, 1989, p. 7). Wally Beebe claimed that one man “is head or senior pastor of the church” and that “this has always been accepted practice in Baptist churches” (p. 4). Wally Beebe declared: “I read in the Bible where one person is the head of the local New Testament church” (p. 10). Wally Beebe wrote: “In a sense, the pastor is not responsible to anyone but to the Lord” (Second Man, p. 37).
Anyone can take any Bible and come up with a false teaching. The idea that the KJV is the driving factor is preposterous. People must overlook passages such as
1 Peter 5:2
Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
The translation is not the problem here. It is the sinner who wields it unfaithfully.
Give me a place where the translation is faulty and we will have something more to talk about. Otherwise, Baptist or not, KJV or not, we are all people who need to rightly divide the Word of Truth.
Just because someone I don’t like quotes from Scripture doesn’t mean I tear that passage out of my Bible.

Galatians 5:15
But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

There is a lot of hate that goes around because people think that one church is too strict or another is not strict enough.

Romans 14:4
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

If you don’t like the church don’t go there. But don’t be the person who jumps on tv or the internet to destroy a church you don’t like. Let God handle the situation. He will be just.
 

37818

Well-Known Member
I think what is actually being discussed here is the “uninspired-at-any-time” notes in the margins.
The marginal notes being true. Opinion versus factual statements that are not opinions.

Psalms 12:7 note, them from: Heb. him, etc: that is, every one of them, etc
 
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Ben1445

Active Member
The marginal notes being true. Opinion versus factual statements that are not opinions.

Psalms 12:7 note, them from: Heb. him, etc: that is, every one of them, etc
I think the signature example of marginal notes comes with
Job 40:17
He moveth his tail like a cedar:
the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
And several marginal notes say this animal, whose tail is compared to a cedar tree, is an elephant or hippopotamus. Neither of them have tails that anyone would compare to anything other than a sapling.
 

Ben1445

Active Member
You won't take the 1611 Translators words on the Word? Didn't they translate the KJV?
I do. I did just say that in an earlier post. But there is plenty to be said for reading tenses and understanding the language structure.
Do I have to get approval to learn a new language?
Do I have to rely on Strong’s to understand the context and grammar? Strong was not one of the translators, you know.
Can I covet the gift of tongues? (Not in a gibberish way)
 

Ben1445

Active Member
@Ben1445

Psalms 12:7 (if I copied correctly }
אַתָּה־יְהוָה תִּשְׁמְרֵם תִּצְּרֶנּוּ מִן־הַדּוֹר זוּ
Like I said, I just started. (Less than a week) But when I can read it I will translate it for everyone else so we can all be edified.
(And now all the re-inspired Bible people are going to hate me)
 

Ben1445

Active Member
I recommend again, the book by David Sorenson, Touch Not the Unclean Thing. It is very informative and covers all of the changes that were made in the KJV.
I don’t get paid for this recommendation.
 

Charlie24

Well-Known Member
I recommend again, the book by David Sorenson, Touch Not the Unclean Thing. It is very informative and covers all of the changes that were made in the KJV.
I don’t get paid for this recommendation.

The 1611 KJV is most likely the Bible your great grandparents used, and their grandparents before them, and so on.

It is the most popular English Book in history.
 
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