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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Hobie, May 21, 2020.

  1. Dave G

    Dave G Well-Known Member

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    As I see it, Dr. Weymouth didn't appear to believe God's words, either.

    To me, his mind failed to conceive of a God who requires eternal conscious torment and suffering for rebellious sinners who hate God and refuse to repent of their gross disobedience.
    A gross disobedience that we love to commit ( Romans 1:32, John 3:19-20, Ephesians 4:17-19 ), were it not for God's grace to us as sinners ( Ephesians 2:1-10 ).
    I reason that he must have missed Revelation 14, Revelation 19 and Revelation 20 in his reading, much more the belief of what is contained in that reading.


    Hobie, man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God ( Luke 4:4 ).
    They are all equally important, and all to be believed.
    So, I strongly urge you to believe the words for the words' sake, and because they are God's words.
    Otherwise, what do we stand on as sinners saved by grace?


    Certainly not on anything less than every blessed word.;)
     
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  2. Hobie

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    So lets go look for Sodom and see what we find, hmmm, not anything left. Come now, lets open our eyes and ears and see what scripture shows us, the wicked perish, sin ends, they are consumed and are no more. Its that simple..
     
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    Thank you for a thoughtful reply ,Hobie.

    Even our God is a consuming fire!
    Deuteronomy 4:24 & Hebrews 12:29
    And baptized with the Holy Ghost and fire! Matthew 3:11

    Certainly consume and devour and smoke leaves very little if anything at all.

    I wonder in the long/short run what the difference is if one has to experience it.
    PAIN.

    What about these:

    Isaiah 65:5 ..."I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose,
    a fire that burneth all the day."

    Isaiah 66:24 "... for their worm shall not die,
    neither shall their fire be quenched;..."

    Matthew 3:12 "Whose fan is in his hand,
    and he will throughly purge his floor,
    and gather his wheat into the garner;
    but he will burn up the chaff
    with unquenchable fire."

    Matthew 18:8 "... to be cast into everlasting fire."

    Jude 7 (text shown) "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner,
    giving themselves over to fornication,
    and going after strange flesh,

    are set forth for an example,

    suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

    How do you explain unquenchable and eternal?
     
  4. Dave G

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    So lets look at God's word, shall we?
    We did, and I quoted several passages in Revelation.

    What does it say?
    I showed you, Hobie...

    " and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name."

    Those that will receive the mark of the "beast" and who will worship his image have been made a very terrible promise by the Lord:

    The smoke of their torment will rise up forever and ever.
    They will have no rest day or night.
    They will not be annihilated, will they?

    If they were to be annihilated, then their torment would not ascend up forever and ever, nor would they be said to have no rest day or night.
    The Bible would very clearly say that they are not tormented, and they are at rest.
    Wouldn't it?

    But it doesn't.
    It says the opposite. :Sneaky

    What Scripture shows us is different than what you're showing us, Hobie.
    It's not "that simple".

    Is there a specific reason that you disagree with God's words?
    Do they not clearly say what they say?
     
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    so does the op author believe the lost doperish ?
     
  7. Hobie

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    Perish is the correct word, and since God has the power bring back even the dead, He makes it a eternal death where life ceases to exists for eternity.

    per·ish
    /ˈperiSH/

    verb
    verb: perish; 3rd person present: perishes; past tense: perished; past participle: perished; gerund or present participle: perishing
    1. suffer death, typically in a violent, sudden, or untimely way.
      "a great part of his army perished of hunger and disease"
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      Similar:
      die

      lose one's life

      be killed
      fall

      expire

      meet one's death
      be lost
      lay down one's life

      breathe one's last

      draw one's last breath
      pass away

      go the way of all flesh

      give up the ghost

      go to glory

      meet one's maker

      go to one's last resting place
      cross the great divide
      bite the dust

      kick the bucket

      cash in one's chips

      croak

      flatline

      turn up one's toes
      shuffle off this mortal coil

      go the way of the dinosaurs
      conk out
      buy it

      snuff it
      peg out

      pop one's clogs
      hop the twig/stick
      bite the big one

      buy the farm

      check out

      hand in one's dinner pail

      go bung

      exit

      decease

      depart this life
      • suffer complete ruin or destruction.
        "the old regime had to perish"
     
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