Do we care more about winning the Duck Dynasty cultural battle...

[righteousdude2]

A Mercy Banning to Keep them from STUMBLING Further?

So as God's word says, Examine yourself to see if you're in the faith. Cause yall say a lot of stuff and pat each other on the back. But little if any of it exudes the love of Christ.

So check YOURSELF and save your prayers because I don't need insincere prayers being sent up on my behalf so that you can frame yourself as a good little Christian.:wavey:

What would it hurt for you to watch the video? Nothing? Other than it might show that others believe as you do, negating your pompous, arrogant approach to the brethren on this board.

And for your information, I don't prayer insincere prayers for anyone. And I certainly do nothing in my walk with Jesus to "Frame" my standing as a Christian in the eyes of God or anyone else!

It is becoming clearer with each rant you post, that you have a deep lying anger issue driving your hate for those on this board!

:tear: It is apparent that you won't cease and desist viewing the messages to help you gain control of your anger, so the MODERATORS of this Board need to consider doing a MERCY BAN to keep you from stumbling any further in your sinful hate, and despicable rage toward the brothers and sisters who love this board! :tear:

 

[Zaac]

The recent craze of "Duck Dynasty" is just another secular gimmick. The general population who get all worked up about Walmart T shirts with four men on them who look like they have not had a bath for over a year is the same mindset of the crowds that followed Jesus in mass, to see the next magic act, get a free meal, or watch an instant weather change. Nothing here about the Word of God or love for our fellow man.

This is nothing but a money making machine with Jesus in the background to put on a stamp of approval. Why is it that every time a positive element comes out for the Lord, it is some idiotic scheme that is not Scripture or worship or giving to others. No, lets take some money we could have given to the work of the God and go buy a cha cha cha chia beard on four men who already have millions. Makes sense to me.

TV shows, ugly beards, ignorant language, useless merchandise, a sure route to eternal life, don't you think?

:applause::applause::applause:

 

[Zaac]

What would it hurt for you to watch the video? Nothing? Other than it might show that others believe as you do, negating your pompous, arrogant approach to the brethren on this board.

You sound pretty pompous and bloviating yourself. Save your video for someone who cares. I know what God's word says so I don't need him to tell me.:flower:

And for your information, I don't prayer insincere prayers for anyone. And I certainly do nothing in my walk with Jesus to "Frame" my standing as a Christian in the eyes of God or anyone else!

:sleeping_2:

It is becoming clearer with each rant you post, that you have a deep lying anger issue driving your hate for those on this board!

:sleeping_2:

:tear: It is apparent that you won't cease and desist viewing the messages to help you gain control of your anger, so the MODERATORS of this Board need to consider doing a MERCY BAN to keep you from stumbling any further in your sinful hate, and despicable rage toward the brothers and sisters who love this board!

You're a straight hoot. Get some sleep. All in to defend a bunch of Duck Dynasty folks saying what they want, but now trying to censor me. Does the hypocrisy know no end?

 

[righteousdude2]

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[Yeshua1]

EXACTLY. Any time there is an ISSUE, we suddenly become all Godly and put forth an ugly display in order to make our point about an issue.

But we never seem to so ardently display a love for people in the same manner.

What's wrong with us?

the problem is that we as Christians make Jesus want to vomit so to speak when we water down the message of the Cross to that of being JUST love and toleranace, for the praqcticing Homosexual, pervert, adulterer, fornicator , liar , ALL of us before the lord saved us, need to hear the bad news of who we are apart from Him before the good news!

Do you disagree with that Phil had to say, for he pretty much direct quoted Apsotle paul!

 

[Zaac]

the problem is that we as Christians make Jesus want to vomit so to speak when we water down the message of the Cross to that of being JUST love and toleranace, for the praqcticing Homosexual, pervert, adulterer, fornicator , liar , ALL of us before the lord saved us, need to hear the bad news of who we are apart from Him before the good news!

Do you disagree with that Phil had to say, for he pretty much direct quoted Apsotle paul!

Absolutely not. As I've said in the past, the man pretty much just quoted Scripture.

But he was saying anything to point anyone to repentance as can be gleaned in the way that he said the other things he said.

He waxed on about homosexuality. Not fornication. Not adultery. Not greed.

And it once again becomes an ISSUE and us against them instead of us pointing folks to Christ.

 

[Yeshua1]

Absolutely not. As I've said in the past, the man pretty much just quoted Scripture.

But he was saying anything to point anyone to repentance as can be gleaned in the way that he said the other things he said.

He waxed on about homosexuality. Not fornication. Not adultery. Not greed.

And it once again becomes an ISSUE and us against them instead of us pointing folks to Christ.

he did NOT go on and on about homosexuality, he just quoted the Bible to show that it was a sin to be active and practicing that, SAME way God calls it sin to be active in fornicating, adultery, liar, thief etc!

Think that any time Homosexuality is shown to be sinful, you get thin skinned my friend!

 

[saturneptune]

he did NOT go on and on about homosexuality, he just quoted the Bible to show that it was a sin to be active and practicing that, SAME way God calls it sin to be active in fornicating, adultery, liar, thief etc!

Think that any time Homosexuality is shown to be sinful, you get thin skinned my friend!

So would you please explain to us why a TV star that sets the example of being a slob is due any attention more than reading the Word of God itself? The Bible and God were here long before Duck Dynasty was. Why is it we insist on clowns making the Word of God valid. As Christians, we are quite capable of that ourselves. Mr Ed could have done the same thing. If you put importance of American TV to transmit the Good News, you got problems.

 

[nodak]

Excuse me, but he does not set an example of being a slob. He dresses and grooms in a way that many in a whole subculture do. That mean spirited post is just as silly as those that have a fit every time a preacher wears anything but a three piece suit.

You may not care for the extremely rural backcountry look. That is cool. I detest the look of city slickers myself.

But your post was not at all what should come out of the keyboard of a Christian.

The record of this man Phil stands. He has long sought to lead others to Christ, has worked hard at racial equality, and did not go on and on about homosexuality.

Little more truth and lot less media lies needed.

 

[Zaac]

he did NOT go on and on about homosexuality,

So you're telling me that he spoke about fornicating and adultery and greed the way he did about man parts not going with man parts, etc?

he just quoted the Bible to show that it was a sin to be active and practicing that, SAME way God calls it sin to be active in fornicating, adultery, liar, thief etc!

He did more tha JUST quote the Bible. What does THIS have to do with quoting Scripture?

“It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.

Read More http://www.gq.com/entertainment/television/201401/duck-dynasty-phil-robertson#ixzz2oKwwhz6V

Think that any time Homosexuality is shown to be sinful, you get thin skinned my friend!

Why would I get thin skinned about anything that God says is sinful? I think yall just make the type of comment you just made in order to justify the way the church goes off the deep end about its pet sins while ignoring other sins we believe to be less important.

 

[Zaac]

So would you please explain to us why a TV star that sets the example of being a slob is due any attention more than reading the Word of God itself? The Bible and God were here long before Duck Dynasty was. Why is it we insist on clowns making the Word of God valid. As Christians, we are quite capable of that ourselves. Mr Ed could have done the same thing. If you put importance of American TV to transmit the Good News, you got problems.

Man you have been spot on it.:thumbs: we've gone out of our minds elevating these folks to any sort of position to be lauded by the church.

 

[Zaac]

Excuse me, but he does not set an example of being a slob. He dresses and grooms in a way that many in a whole subculture do. That mean spirited post is just as silly as those that have a fit every time a preacher wears anything but a three piece suit.

You may not care for the extremely rural backcountry look. That is cool. I detest the look of city slickers myself.

But your post was not at all what should come out of the keyboard of a Christian.

The record of this man Phil stands. He has long sought to lead others to Christ, has worked hard at racial equality, and did not go on and on about homosexuality.

Little more truth and lot less media lies needed.

“It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.

Read More http://www.gq.com/entertainment/television/201401/duck-dynasty-phil-robertson#ixzz2oKwwhz6V

I ask again, what does any of the above statement have to do with Scripture?

And how does demanding that someone be baptized before they can be saved lead anyone to Christ?

 

[evenifigoalone]

So you're telling me that he spoke about fornicating and adultery and greed the way he did about man parts not going with man parts, etc?.

To my understanding he was specifically asked about his opinion on homosexuality in the interview and that's where his statement came from.

 

[evenifigoalone]

Man you have been spot on it.:thumbs: we've gone out of our minds elevating these folks to any sort of position to be lauded by the church.

Seriously? I didn't even know the folks on Duck Dynasty were Christians until I heard something about one of the guys preaching at some church. All I knew before that was that a lot of Christians I know liked it. But then I also know a lot of Christians into other popular A&E shows like "The Walking Dead".

The popularity of the show seemed to be more about entertainment than any "it's good solely because they're Christians" thing. I've never heard it mentioned in church OR as some sort of Christian talking point, not once.
Although, yes, I'd be excited if the people in the shows I like are Christian, in the similar way I'd be excited if one of them was a libertarian. (In fact I'm into anime and my favorite English voice actor is a Christian.) That's only natural, IMO.

P.S. I've never seen one second of one episode of Duck Dynasty.

 

[Zaac]

To my understanding he was specifically asked about his opinion on homosexuality in the interview and that's where his statement came from.

And here in is where the issues arise. Stop letting the world frame the discussion and setting it up to look like something it is not. You're speaking to a secular audience then preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ in love.

 

[evenifigoalone]

And here in is where the issues arise. Stop letting the world frame the discussion and setting it up to look like something it is not. You're speaking to a secular audience then preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ in love.

Have you seen the second part of the quote? Apparently the news didn't report that part of his statement, but suffice to say he ended said statement on a very positive note.

 

[Zaac]

Have you seen the second part of the quote? Apparently the news didn't report that part of his statement, but suffice to say he ended said statement on a very positive note.

The news did report thesecond part of the statement. But once he had set "the church" up to be against those awful homosexuals and then got a bit crude in his description of why, there was no way tthe media was gonna hear the rest of it.

 

[evenifigoalone]

The news did report thesecond part of the statement. But once he had set "the church" up to be against those awful homosexuals and then got a bit crude in his description of why, there was no way tthe media was gonna hear the rest of it.

Right, God forbid any Christians call homosexuality a sin.
Look, if I were asked such a question (and I have been), I'd have worded it differently. And my standard response IS a lot different. But on the other hand, sometimes people say dumb things in interviews. I'd probably make myself sound like a total idiot if I were interviewed; I express myself a lot more clearly in writing. Plus in writing, I have every opportunity to edit my words if need be.

 

[blackbird]

I ask again, what does any of the above statement have to do with Scripture?

And how does demanding that someone be baptized before they can be saved lead anyone to Christ?

For a complete understanding of my post here---please refer up a couple of posts

What Phil said in the quote?? No different type language that can be found in a college level Human Anatomy class while studying human reproduction----you take a HA class on the college level---and the professor will be using the same type language in describing those parts-----what did you want Phil to use?? Gutter language?? Language heard in a 9th grade locker room??

blackbird:saint::saint:

 

[Revmitchell]

It is a strawman in other words a flat out lie that if we are paying attention to the issue with Phil Robertson then we are not working to win the lost. It is also a lie that if we do we cannot win the lost. It is not an either or scenario. Let's deal in reality and truth rather than strawman lies.