Do we hacve fallen sin natures or not now?

[Particular]

Yes they have and so have you. You follow the teaching of men. Why not follow Christ alone and stop believing in men.
MB

The irony of this statement is not lost on me.

 

[JonC]

We would all feel and understanding that we have the correct understanding of the scriptures on this subject....

I hope so. But I wish that some of us would not confuse that understanding with God's Word itself. That is the problem - not what you believe but that you believe it is equal to Scripture even though it is not taught int he Bible.

 

[JonC]

The irony of this statement is not lost on me.

lol....the wording may not have been the best.

 

[Yeshua1]

I hope so. But I wish that some of us would not confuse that understanding with God's Word itself. That is the problem - not what you believe but that you believe it is equal to Scripture even though it is not taught int he Bible.

I could turn around and say your understanding here is not found in bible either then....

 

[JonC]

I could turn around and say your understanding here is not found in bible either then....

Depending on the topic, you may be right. But I do not say "I side with Jesus, Peter and the Bible", which is often your defense for extra-biblical ideas you have.

On this topic, however, I stick only to (and tightly with) Scripture because it makes sense to me without "reasoning it out". I understand others disagree, and that's fine. To be fair, my position may leave many with unanswered questions. That does not bother me. We have to work out our own understanding.