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Do we have to confess our sins ?
- Thread starter dan p
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It's eternal death for a "brother", i.e., one who has been saved. It means you are saving him from going to Hell.
I don't think so. Instead of "disqualified" the KJV uses "castaway" and the ASV uses "rejected." Of course it was. Why else would the servant be handed over to the torturers until he repaid all that was owed to the master? When you do the math, you will see it was impossible for this servant to ever repay what he owed. Therefore the punishment was permanent. Then Jesus says the heavenly Father will do the same to you if each of you does not forgive . . . . Yes, he was, but before he left, he was in ghe good graces of his father (saved). Then he became lost (unsaved). When he returned he was back in the good graces of his father (saved). You can be a child and still be denied the legacy. See the second paragraph of Post 15.
Like I said, these passages cannot be reconciled unless you take them out of context and give them a meaning they do not have.
No - you need to read the passages with your own "losing salvation" glasses to see these passages and being about losing salvation.
Well, I could say the same for you because when you get to one of these passages the thinking probably goes something like this: "Although this seems to be about salvation lost, I know it can't be because OSAS is an immutable principle." It's always dangerous to discard scripture because it is in conflict with other scripture.No - you need to read the passages with your own "losing salvation" glasses to see these passages and being about losing salvation.
OSAS it a dangerous doctrine. Believing is will not ipso facto send you to Hell. However, it creates a casual attitude toward sin, particularly among that great majority of people who live on the margins of the Christian life.
Well, I could say the same for you because when you get to one of these passages the thinking probably goes something like this: "Although this seems to be about salvation lost, I know it can't be because OSAS is an immutable principle." It's always dangerous to discard scripture because it is in conflict with other scripture.
OSAS it a dangerous doctrine. Believing is will not ipso facto send you to Hell. However, it creates a casual attitude toward sin, particularly among that great majority of people who live on the margins of the Christian life.
See, I disagree. What I see in my view of OSAS is the cross is what saved me. It is not me. In that case, I see the great sacrifice that God had to make in order to make it possible for me to get to heaven. Yes I sin but because of the Holy Spirit in me, the guilt is incredible and the conviction is so heavy that like David, I feel physically ill. I would never have a casual view of sin ever. I live my life to glorify God and sin does not do that. So I live my life knowing that I'm covered in His grace and yet want to make sure that I do all that I can to please Him. Just like my children want to please me but if they do not they will never NOT be my children, it's the same with God. I know that I have eternal life and am truly saved because of this new heart I have from God. The unsaved don't desire in their deepest soul to please Him but I do.