Do We Need to Leave Iraq Sooner Now?

[Dragoon68]

Originally posted by StraightAndNarrow:
... The war is just like Viet Nam. The sooner we get out and cut our losses the better.

We should have never left that war unfinished either. It was only because our people did not have the resolve to stick it out that we quit and left it to others to pick up the suffering.

President Kennedy said:
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

This much we pledge - and more.

It's too bad the price became too high, the burden too heavy, and the hardship to great. It's really a shame that we dumped our friend into the hands of our foe through a bogus "peace with honor" treaty.

I want no part of such a thing for this generation of veterans. I want them to be known as those that won the war in Iraq because everyone in their great country wanted them to and stuck with them all the way.

If we start something we need to finish it. If we can't then let's never start. We already started Iraq and the only acceptable answer is to finish it.

Finishing it means satisfactorily turning it over to a self governing nation that's trained and equipped to handle the continued development of a government that represents their citizens and will not support or harbor terrorists that would bring us great harm. We can leave when that goal is reached. We're a lot closer now than we've ever been.

 

[Ed Edwards]

Originally posted by StraightAndNarrow:
The war is just like Viet Nam. The sooner we get out and cut our losses the better.

Amen, Brother StraightAndNarrow -- Preach it!

It would be better for militant Muslim terrorists.
It would be better for Russian and Chi-comm
arms sales. It will be better for North Korean
missile sales. I will be better for body bag
vendors and Funeral home owners. Etc.

I note the carnage among US Soldiers has
now equaled 11 hours of carnage in American
abortion mills.

 

[church mouse guy]

Teddy Kennedy's brother thought that the Viet Nam war was necessary. However, to say that it is like the war in Iraq is an unsupported analogy. I suppose that we could say that it was like Hannibal's invasion of Italy, also. Afterall, people died fighting Hannibal and people have died fighting terrorists in Iraq. And Hannibal did have all those elephants....

 

[kubel]

People that are for a pullout aren't looking at the long-term problems associated with abandoning that country.

If we take care of business now, we will have less business to take care of later. Either way it has to be done.

 

[ballfan]

For those who want to stop in Iraq and bring the troops home now; how do you propose to conduct the war on terror?

Just because we quit doesn't mean the terrorists will. Its going to be a long long time before we're able to bring all the troops home; likewise Iraq is not likely to be their last stop.

 

[Rocko9]

A victory in Iraq will not defeat terrorism. It must continually be dealt with around the globe.
Cheny has said that we have too many troops in Iraq. Sound s like victory is being more and more defined each passing moment.

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by Dragoon68:
If we have no money, we will still have freedom. It is not for sale and will not be relinquished.

If we go belly up financially I doubt that we will retain freedom.

 

[Ed Edwards]

I note the TWO AND A HALF YEARS
carnage among US Soldiers has
now equaled 11 hours of carnage in American
abortion mills.

 

[Dragoon68]

Originally posted by KenH:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dragoon68:
If we have no money, we will still have freedom. It is not for sale and will not be relinquished.

If we go belly up financially I doubt that we will retain freedom. </font>[/QUOTE]The rest of the story was: With freedom our resourcefulness, determination, and courage will be able to find new prosperity.

Americans, even when down are not out. We have a history of recovering from hard times and being stronger for it. Ask your ancestors who went through the depression. Ask some of your family who probably, like mine, came here with nothing and have done very well with the freedom we have.

The danger, in hard times, is the tendancy - even the demands - for excessive government control. That, if put in place, would indeed harm our freedom.

 

[Dragoon68]

Duplicate posting deleted.

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

In answer to the original question: NO. We leave when the job is done.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[Ed Edwards]

Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:
In answer to the original question: NO. We leave when the job is done.

Joseph Botwinick

Amen, Brother Joseph Botwinick -- Preach it!

I note we still have troops in Germany and Japan sixty years after the main battle ceased.

 

[freedom's cause]

just think of what could happen if Iraq does achieve democracy Japan's change is an example
here's what the muslims intend to do to America
will we let them Islam is one of America's greatest threats and this proves it


http://www.islam-exposed.org/furqan/contents.html

 

[LorrieGrace]

We cannot NOT afford to quit!!!!

 

[Dragoon68]

Don't stop until it's over! Then be ready to come back if our new friends don't do right. Be ready for the next challenge wherever it may be and whenever it may come.

 

[LadyEagle]

We must pray that God will continue to bless our nation and keep us wise, strong, and courageous in dealing with all the suffering that we face in a manner than gives honor and glory to His name.

Why should God continue to bless our nation?

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

There is no good reason that God should bless any nation of any time except for his perfect will and sovereign grace.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[Dragoon68]

Originally posted by LadyEagle:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />We must pray that God will continue to bless our nation and keep us wise, strong, and courageous in dealing with all the suffering that we face in a manner than gives honor and glory to His name.

Why should God continue to bless our nation? </font>[/QUOTE]He certainly doesn't have to. He probably won't if we don't ask. He probably won't if we don't, as a whole, conduct ourselves in a manner that gives honor and glory to His name. He might if we pray seeking His blessing and guideance in following His will. That's what every American should do.

 

[LadyEagle]

That's true.

But God has been kicked out of the public square, haven't you heard? Even the US Air Force has a new "no religion" rule.

 

[Dragoon68]

Originally posted by LadyEagle:
That's true.

But God has been kicked out of the public square, haven't you heard? Even the US Air Force has a new "no religion" rule.

God has been "kicked out" of - perhaps more properly never been received into - the hearts of many Americans which is why He's not "seen" at home, in school, at work, at play, in the work of government, and, even, in church as He should be. A nation is defined by the beliefs and practices of its citizens. In a representative democracy like ours we, collectively, are fully responsible for, and in control of, what our government does or doesn't do. What we have is what many want or, if not want, certainly continue to permit.